I'm fine with groups.io (or Google, even) On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 11:32 AM Gaelan Steele <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Oct 20, 2020, at 10:24 AM, ais523 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > All the mail that goes to BAK seems to appear in my spam folder. > > > > Looking into it, the reason appears to be that the SPF record for > > listserver.tue.nl is set incorrectly. It states that emails forwarded > > from the list should come from the IP 131.155.2.12 (with other IPs > > being discouraged, rather than impossible). However, it appears that > > they actually come from 131.155.15.53. > > > > Given that the rewriting of the subject means that the subject doesn't > > match the originally sent message, and thus the DKIM record won't > > verify either, it doesn't surprise me that my mailbox is very > > suspicious about whether the incoming messages are legitimate or not. > > > > (Sending this from [email protected], because yahoo.co.uk has > > strict DMARC settings, and we know through experience that if an email > > with strict DMARC settings sends to a mailing list where the DKIM and > > SPF don't match, it tends to bounce *other* people off the list. That > > would be fun for an apathy scam, perhaps, but might count as violating > > the right of participation in the fora.) > > > > I have added the BAK: to this email's subject line manually, so that > > the mailserver does not need to rewrite it, in the hope of getting a > > DKIM match (basically, as a method of verifying whether or not my > > theory about it being a broken SPF record is correct). > > > > That said, I'm not sure if the sysadmine of tue.nl is involved with > > Agora at all, so this might be quite difficult to get fixed. > > > > -- > > ais523 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Agora mailing list > > [email protected] > > > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flistserver.tue.nl%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fagora&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd263a148bbf84926893008d874e074b7%7Ccc7df24760ce4a0f9d75704cf60efc64%7C1%7C1%7C637387854670334959%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=4Lk11p688%2FcSAZ22t1W%2BqDS%2FGEkCv4mE5O1uipw6l%2Bo%3D&reserved=0 > > I've mentioned this on Discord, but it's probably worth bringing up here: > I think it'd be a good idea to have a backup forum hosted by a "real > company" with a vested interest in keeping things up and running. Google > Groups seems like the obvious choice, but it has some undesirable features > (namely, you need a Google account to subscribe or send message), and > groups.io seems like a reasonable alternative. They seem to be in the > sweet spot of "large enough to have sysadmins who will keep a high uptime, > but small enough that they won't be killed off/ruined by some high-up > exec". I've created [email protected] (and given nix joint ownership > for bus factor). Would people support making that a public (backup) forum? > > Gaelan > _______________________________________________ > Agora mailing list > [email protected] > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flistserver.tue.nl%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fagora&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd263a148bbf84926893008d874e074b7%7Ccc7df24760ce4a0f9d75704cf60efc64%7C1%7C1%7C637387854670334959%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=4Lk11p688%2FcSAZ22t1W%2BqDS%2FGEkCv4mE5O1uipw6l%2Bo%3D&reserved=0 >
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