Hi Barbara, Can you please change the color of the elephant to white? May be you colored it to have a contrast from background, but Airavata has to be milky white.
I am having second thoughts on the border as it is showing up too prominently, but lets wait what others think as well. Suresh On May 25, 2011, at 7:14 AM, Suresh Marru wrote: > Here is an email from Barbara: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12480397/airavatabannerdraft.jpg > > -- > Hello all, > > After taking into account your suggestions for the logo based on the Doodle > Suresh put out last week, I've created a draft banner (attached). > > In terms of the actual icon, remember that most OSes actually display the > name of the program on their own, so that should be picture-only, no text. I > will work on that last after we get a final banner with logo done and cleaned > up. > > Barbara Hallock > > > On May 17, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Suresh Marru wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I think the consensus (with the limited votes on doodle poll) is to have to >> the straight faced elephant and blueish color. Of course the cartoonish >> elephant is preferred by every one, but we need a contribution of a 3 faced >> while elephant cartoon. If not the popular alternative seems to be the >> straight faced one Barbara used already. >> >> I tried to combine the suggestions so far (from the old google group >> discussion and doodle poll): >> >> The elephants and color shades from >> http://dementedpants.imgur.com/8M1H3#gWYP5 the blue and gold border as in >> http://dementedpants.imgur.com/8M1H3#bKHj9, the word "airavata" on the >> bottom as in - http://dementedpants.imgur.com/8M1H3#i2MsA. I have seen lot >> of negatives on the current placements of the feather may be because the >> feather is at elephant's feet. I haven't seen any suggestions on placement >> of feather though. It will be great if the trunk can lift the feather up, if >> not placing it on the forehead in some manner might be a possibility. >> >> For web page banner one illustration I can think of is like >> http://dementedpants.imgur.com/8M1H3#gWYP5 with a big feather falling from >> top or slanted from bottom of the word airavata. >> >> Any other suggestions? >> >> Suresh >> >> On May 13, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Suresh Marru wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Please submit any logo suggestions so we can gather all the proposals and >>> start a vote on. Thanks to Barbara Hallock for volunteering and proposing >>> the drafts at http://dementedpants.imgur.com/8M1H3#gvPwK. Barbara suggested >>> us to narrow down some choices which will help her propose more focused >>> logos. If you have logo preferences, can you please vote on - >>> http://doodle.com/n7wnkqku9mdgrknr >>> >>> I am recapping an old thread before the mailing list was crated: >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Suresh >>> >>> ---- >>> >>>> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Suresh Marru <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Thilina Gunarathne wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I also like http://dementedpants.imgur.com/8M1H3#gvPwK, but I >>>>> personally prefer it to be bit more informal and soft on the edges >>>>> (not sure whether being bit informal fits well with the meaning of >>>>> Airavata). In the current format,the placing of the feather does not >>>>> look right... >>>>> >>>>> Some pun: If we want to have the airavata software only serve the academic >>>>> community then we can have the elephants dress up in shorts and t-shirts >>>>> or >>>>> we can let it to be ready for a swim. If we want to reach out to corporate >>>>> audience, the side facing elephant;'s business casual might be a good fit. >>>>> In presentations and client pitch-in's, we can put back the grander suite >>>>> it >>>>> originally had :) >>>>> Thilina, from a mythological perspective Airavata is the vehicle of lord >>>>> Indra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra). I am not sure of the informal >>>>> nature of the meaning but to my knowledge Airavata is not inside temples >>>>> or >>>>> directly prayed like Nandi(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandi_(bull)). >>>>> Other >>>>> than the soft edges, I am not sure how we can make the front faced >>>>> elephants >>>>> informal. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Suresh >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> Thilina >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Raminderjeet Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> They all are nice. i like this as logo >>>>> http://dementedpants.imgur.com/8M1H3#gvPwK and >>>>> http://dementedpants.imgur.com/8M1H3#gWYP5 as banner (need to unify the >>>>> color). >>>>> >>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Chathura Herath wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I like http://dementedpants.imgur.com/8M1H3#i2MsA move the feather to the >>>>> trunk. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Marlon Pierce <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> >>>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>>> >>>>> I like this one: http://dementedpants.imgur.com/8M1H3#i2MsA But perhaps >>>>> >>>>> add the yellow trim around the surrounding lotus as in the first one, >>>>> >>>>> http://dementedpants.imgur.com/8M1H3#bKHj9 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marlon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 5/4/11 8:53 PM, Suresh Marru wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> Barabara has put together a set of new logos for every one's comments - >>>>> http://dementedpants.imgur.com/8M1H3#gvPwK >>>>> >>>>> This is stil work in progress and is yet to finish some more ideas, but >>>>> all >>>>> suggestions so far have been extremely valuable, so please keep them >>>>> coming. >>>>> Also, if you are opposed to any particular logo and intend to vote -1 in >>>>> the >>>>> future, please indicate the image number now itself. This will help others >>>>> narrowing down choices. >>>>> >>>>> Suresh >>>>> >>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:18 AM, Suresh Marru wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I did not realize the herd of elephant logos in Apache :-) (hadoop, >>>>> mahout >>>>> and all hadoop related projects) >>>>> >>>>> I agree that we should not confuse with hadoop, but having a related logo >>>>> may not be a bad thing. In order to shrug of inertia from Scientific use >>>>> cases, we will anyway need to compliment the Grid abstractions, overlaying >>>>> airavata over Hadoop. >>>>> >>>>> Hi Barbara, >>>>> >>>>> I hope you are getting these emails and watching the detailed comments. >>>>> Going with Ross's theory of not having too much details, drawing a simple >>>>> three-headed elephant (taking ideas from the sculptures you showed me) >>>>> might >>>>> be a possibility. Some examples: >>>>> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Laos_(1952-1975).svg >>>>> >>>>> http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-27249871/stock-photo-three-headed-elephant-statue.html >>>>> >>>>> Since we have a opposition for red, can we try royal blue as the >>>>> background? >>>>> Or any brighter color which stands out the milky white elephant and the >>>>> apache feather. >>>>> >>>>> I searched for some phrases representing Airavata which might help your >>>>> thinking: "Elephant of Clouds", "Airavata has four tusks and seven trunks >>>>> and is spotless white", "The derivation of this name is referred to the >>>>> word >>>>> lravat, signifying, produced from water", >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the help, >>>>> >>>>> Suresh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 3, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is a great first draft. A few comments (by now the Airavata team will >>>>> have have learned I always have something to say ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Red is a very angry colour. I agree with Suresh that this might be a bit >>>>> much >>>>> >>>>> As a logo it has way too much detail. I had to look very carefully to >>>>> figure >>>>> out what it was all about. My eye kept being drawn to the saddle beauty of >>>>> the saddle, I didn't even see the elephant to start with. >>>>> >>>>> When I did see the Elephant something was "not right". After a while I >>>>> noticed it had three heads but this is really hard to see as the rightmost >>>>> head is hidden behind the ear and in the saddle. >>>>> >>>>> Finally, the shading and detail in the elephant means that it's hard to >>>>> gather it all in with a quick scan which is all a logo usually gets. >>>>> >>>>> I suspect this would look fantastic at ten times the size and on a mouse >>>>> mat >>>>> (does anyone use them now). >>>>> >>>>> I'm also a little concerned that the use of the elephant in this form >>>>> might >>>>> confuse Airavata and Hadoop (http://hadoop.apache.org/). I think it's >>>>> sufficiently different in style, but the concept might be a little too >>>>> close. >>>>> >>>>> Having said all that I like the idea of this logo. Personally I think it >>>>> should be simpler (something that works well in a block graphic on a >>>>> t-shirt >>>>> for example). And the three headed aspect needs to be clearer. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps we should just have the elephants three heads facing out of the >>>>> page >>>>> (i.e. central head looking straight at us, left one looking over our left >>>>> shoulder and right over the right shoulder). >>>>> >>>>> Finally, unlike Suresh I really like the subtlety of the Apache feather as >>>>> an earing. Nice touch. >>>>> >>>>> Ross >>>>> >>>>> On 03/05/2011 22:30, Suresh Marru wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Barbara, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for coming up with a logo in such a short time, its amazing. I >>>>> >>>>> was really impressed the way you were doing your home work going through >>>>> >>>>> all existing apache projects and reading through the project proposal >>>>> >>>>> and also the stories of Airavata elephants. >>>>> >>>>> I am cc'ing the group for comments. I can see that you tried to stick to >>>>> >>>>> the colors of the elephant saddle. I really like font style but I am >>>>> >>>>> little worried that the web page might look too reddish. Also the >>>>> >>>>> feather is buried in the grander of the saddle and is not prominent. But >>>>> >>>>> I am not a creative person and will let others comment. >>>>> >>>>> Just to give you a heads up on the process, we will just take comments >>>>> >>>>> and iterate through the logs. By early next week or so, we should have >>>>> >>>>> public mailing list setup and we will forward this discussion there and >>>>> >>>>> also call for other designs. Once we have some draft designs will call >>>>> >>>>> for a voting. >>>>> >>>>> I think it might be better to hold of on CSS until early next week, so >>>>> >>>>> we will not waste your time twice. We still need to have a discussion on >>>>> >>>>> the chosen web page publishing tools. It might be similar to the Rave >>>>> >>>>> project I showed you, but will need to confirm. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your time and effort, >>>>> >>>>> Suresh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>> *From: *"Hallock, Barbara Lynn via RT" <[email protected] >>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> >>>>> *Date: *May 3, 2011 4:50:54 PM EDT >>>>> >>>>> *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> *Subject: **[RAC RT #53837] Logo Request for a Graphics Designer* >>>>> >>>>> *Reply-To: *[email protected] >>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> Suresh, >>>>> >>>>> First, thanks for taking the time to meet with me in person. >>>>> >>>>> I have come up with a first draft for the Airavata logo which >>>>> >>>>> incorporates the three-headed elephant you like and also the Apache >>>>> >>>>> feather. >>>>> >>>>> One note is that this is a fairly wide graphic. I've designed it with >>>>> >>>>> the web in mind, but it can easily be cropped to just the elephant (I'll >>>>> >>>>> include a black and white version of just the graphic with the final >>>>> >>>>> product when it's finished, if you would like.) >>>>> >>>>> Barb >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know what the group thinks about it / would like changed / >>>>> >>>>> etc. I will start on the web page / css first thing tomorrow. >>>>> >>>>> Barb >>>>> >>>>> UITS Research Technologies >>>>> >>>>> Core Services >>> >>> >> >
