On Apr 19, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Thanks for your reply. At this point I think I need to connect the two > projects to explore further. You've already expressed a willingness to > help, so I'll put the ball in their court and encourage them to come > here. If you want to follow up yourself you can find more about the > project in question at http://www.wf4ever-project.org/ (let me know if > you want any introductions). The discussion that led to this was > actually in another project (called DataFlow), but I'll not confuse > things by introducing that project yet (I work on it myself and am > evaluating opportunities).
Hi Ross, I will wait for a few days before the folks on the other side get a chance to absorb what you already might have sent them. If we don't hear back, I will certainly take on your offer and request for introduction. This weekend I want to get the release out of the way first. Thanks for all your time and efforts in syncing projects, Suresh > > Ross > > On 19 April 2012 13:17, Suresh Marru <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Apr 19, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: >> >>> I've been asked by a representative of another project whether XBaya >>> has "reasonably competent handling of provenance metadata" >>> specifically, although not limited to, the work of the W3C provenance >>> group. >>> >>> What should I tell them? >> >> Hi Ross, >> >> XBaya uses a workflow tracking schema [1] for all metadata exchanges for >> workflow monitoring. The scheme is designed right from the onset to meet >> both the provenance and workflow orchestration goals. If the question is >> does Airavata also bundles provenance tools, then the answer is no. But if >> the question is literally 'reasonably competent handling of provenance >> metadata' the answer is a clear yes. XBaya is designed right from the onset >> with provenance goals. XBaya was part of the Provenance Challenge [2] and >> features in first and second challenges [3], but once the group moved to OPM >> and later to W3C provenance, the Xbaya code did not retain compatibility. >> But Prof. Beth Plale and team at IU lead the Karma provenance efforts which >> is available from sourceforge [4]. >> >> If the follow on question is what it takes to integrate XBaya with >> provenance tools like Karma and make it OPM or W3C Provenance complaint >> (which I personally consider is too lean to do any meaningful provenance) is >> very minimal, almost at the scale of a GSoC project. I will be happy to >> mentor/guide any such efforts. >> >> Cheers, >> Suresh >> >> [1] - >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/airavata/trunk/modules/commons/workflow-tracking/ >> [2] - http://twiki.ipaw.info/bin/view/Challenge/ >> [3] - https://pti.iu.edu/sites/default/files/SimmhanIPAW06.pdf >> [4] - http://sourceforge.net/projects/karmatool/ >> >> >>> >>> Ross >>> -- >>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) >>> Programme Leader (Open Development) >>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >> > > > > -- > Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > Programme Leader (Open Development) > OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
