From: Ken Spong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thank you, Teresa. Well, seems we are out in the wilderness, trying to 
convert the goats and camels.

I have delayed responding in the (now vain) hope that someone else here in 
the land of OZ might have a similar vision.
Nope. Maybe it really is the land of nod....  Since the original posting 
and your response - the AIRNEWS list has reflected  the usual running over 
old paths, with no future vision.  Makes me wonder if there is a creative 
spark left in Radiography. All the spatter and patter is about fixing, 
rather than making fresh paths. It is interesting that if a garment is 
fixed often enough it will eventually fall apart.

Much of what you and I have stated is future based, but -- what if we could 
create a beginning, with a grand vision to drive our expectations -- maybe, 
just maybe, more  of those students completing their Radiography degree 
just might stay to enrich our profession with their passion and zeal - this 
is not to descry the newly qualified who have chosen Radiography as the 
vehicle for their future, just we need more people with courage and 
desire.  And, what if some of the older brigade stopped trying to fall on 
their sword and instead took up the challenge of career-based advanced 
qualifications.

So, how about it, leviathans out there.  Feel the wind in the sails?  Maybe 
a smell of staleness in what is the "current impasse".

I challenge each and everyone of you, my fellow Radiographers who have 
taken the time to get this far in this writing, to consider what 
Radiography is, and where it could go to given training and opportunity.

Radiographer Initiated Opinions are a (fresh) beginning.  Lets do it.

Ken Spong

At 06:26  23/12/2002 +0800, you wrote:

>From: Teresa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Well said Ken, how about a name change to Radiographic Consultant or 
>Practitioner, lets define what we do and what we are capable of doing.
>
>Why can we not triage, order the xrays and do a verbal interpretation. We 
>won't get provider numbers in my career time, but we might get something else.
>
>Lets start lobbying, lets get up and be heard, it has to be the whole 
>profession not just a few.
>
>Is this what we really want, or is it a few who have foresight into role 
>expansion.
>
>Its time for us to stand up and be counted, be a voice to be heard.
>
>Merry christmas everyone.
>
>Teresa Ong.
>
>At 09:00 PM 12/23/02 +1100, you wrote:
>>  From: Ken Spong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>Been watching the "cost of state registration" conversation.
>>
>>A couple of comments.
>>1.  I believe that Registration is a State matter and cannot be
>>administered Federally.
>>2.  The cost impost of QLD registration will mean that out of state
>>locums,
>>etc will likely dry up.
>>
>>On a brighter note, I enjoyed Ron Pepper's comments:
>>   "My bottom line is that the single most important issue that we should
>>be
>>promoting is the legally recognised right & responsibility to report
>>plain
>>films at the level of a non-specialist doctor.
>>When we have that, we will have the right to self determination,
>>professional
>>autonomy, registration and a cheap rebate provider number.
>>As an aside, I note that in NSW, the NSWH refers only to Medical
>>Radiation
>>Scientists. However in hospitals, staff, public & MRS' themselves only
>>use the
>>term "radiographer" or "X-Ray guy". You are also specifically prohibited
>>from
>>offering an opinion, yet nurses & junior doctors routinely do so. But if
>>you
>>work with specialists & are respected, they invariably ask your opinion.
>>This
>>is the culture that we ourselves are unwilling to change."
>>
>>Lets cut to the chase. Who do we want to be?  Leaders or followers?
>>Without initiative, we are doomed to become gardener class-Xray guys and
>>
>>gals.  We see the nurses take the initiative in NIXR's.  Great move, and
>>it
>>can produce some improvement in patient management.  What we need to get
>>
>>involved with is the other side of the coin.  Let's face it, most of the
>>
>>nurses would welcome the input of the Medical Imaging Scientist /
>>Technologist in being assured that there is or is not a fracture, that
>>there is a problem in a chest Xray, that the additional information
>>gained
>>in the process of the Radiographic examination is conveyed back to where
>>it
>>can make a difference in the management of the patient.
>>
>>It is all about patient management outcomes, and we can either grasp the
>>
>>opportunity or walk away to self pity and despair.
>>
>>Now, not all will feel comfortable about offering an opinion - maybe not
>>
>>comfortable with doing so as being afraid of making a mistake, etc.
>>That
>>is what experience and training is about.  Take the example of the NIXR
>>program.
>>So we could achieve a process profile similar to the NIXR
>>program.  Selected, voluntary, service oriented.  Recognised, and
>>respected
>>for that skill and opinion.
>>I'm all for it.  Further training might incorporate more in-depth
>>appreciation of images and a formal reporting process such as being
>>developed at RBH, but for a kickoff, lets light the wick, and instead of
>>
>>standing back, grab hold and hang on.  Enjoy the ride!
>>
>>Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>It's Life, but not as you may know it! - Try it!
>>http://www.stargate.co.nz/healthy.htm



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