From: Tony Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dear folks,

Does anyone else remember an AGM where a motion was passed that we would be 
known as 'radiographers'?  I think it may have been Ayers Rock but it  could have been 
Melbourne.  Can someone please check the minutes?

Peter, I think that you make a very good point but Fred Murphy's point is  also valid 
and 
much more important in the long term, in my opinion.  We need to move forward.

I have a long enough memory in this profession now to recall the AIR's  previous 
'committee for the future' or whatever (I can't remember what it was called but I can 
remember discussing the green paper at one national conference - ? Bathurst).  I 
remember that they (the committee) were criticised because the only issue they 
discussed with any vigour was exactly the one that's being discussed in this e-mail 
forum now.  Why is  that? Is a name that important that it dominates all such 
discussions  about where we're headed professionally?  Why can't we move on?

Just in case there's a perception that there's a lack of issues have you  read the 
paper 
in the December 2002 issue of 'The Radiographer' about role  development for medical 
imaging practitioners in Australia.  Why can't we get on with those developments 
instead of getting bogged down on this  relatively minor issue?

Surely the Commonwealth Government would be unimpreseed (to say the least) if they 
knew that our energies were going into this discussion.  The head  of Diagnostics and 
Technology didn't have any trouble identifying which  health profession he wanted to 
talk with about radiographer reporting in 2001.  Nor did he have any trouble 
identifying 
which conference he wanted to send some 10 delegates to in Coffs Harbour in 2002.  
We never did capitalise on that opportunity though.  The inertia was too great.  We  
just 
continue along the same old path and, it seems, retrace the same worn footsteps.

I would also like to point out that doctors are also called medical  practitioners, 
family 
practitioners, general practitioners, paediatricians, geriatricians (subtly different 
from 
gereontologists), suregons (with all of their sub-specialities), etc etc.  They have 
dozens 
of colleges and professional associations.  In rural health alone the doctors have 
several different organisations, as do nurses. We are just in the process of filling a 
position for a cardiorespiratory physiotherapist so it seems there are more than one 
type of physiotherapist.  My dad was a pharmacist but also called a pharceutical 
practitioner and a chemist on occasions.  Pharmacists also have community 
pharmacists associations and hospital pharmacists associations.  In other words other 
health professions have 'professional sub-groups' and specialities.  It's normal 
professional behaviour to specialise and set-up a representative body for each =
sub-group.  If in doubt check the literature.

During this discussion a few people have said 'what's in a name...'. Even Shakespeare 
said it! Let's get over it and move onto the real issues like making our profession 
mean 
something to the community and developing our role so that we can make healthcare 
better.

Tony

Tony Smith
Senior Lecturer in
Medical Radiation Science
University Department of Rural Health - Nrthn NSW
Ph: (02) 6761 9510 {Int:+61+2+6761 9510}
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 From: Peter Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What's in a name?

While this argument seems to keep reappearing it may well be=20
fundamental to the future direction of the profession.

For example, formally, informally and legislatively:-

            "WE" =3D Radiographer
                   Medical Imaging Technologist
                   Medical Imaging Practitioner
                   Medical Imaging Scientist
                   Medical Radiation Practioner
                   Medical Radiation Scientist
                   Magnetic Resonance Imaging Technologist
                   Magnetic Resonance Radiographer
                   Ultrasonographer
                   Sonographer
                   Mammographer
                   Radiotherapist
                   Radiotherapy technologist
                   Radiation Therapist

However "like" Professions :

            Pharmacist =3D Pharmacist
            Chiropractor =3D  Chiropractor
            Speech Therapist =3D Speech Therapist
            Nurse =3D  Nurse
            Physiotherapist =3D Physiotherapist
            Radiologist =3D Radiologist
            Social Worker =3D Social worker

All of the latter professions have a significant number of specialities =
but
their public, political and educational faces are as one. Currently, =
who=20
Do you think the community, politicians and lobbyists would ask regarding
issues that may directly impact on us? Well, they would go to who they
 "know" represents a view (i.e. 1=3D1).

A "name" is fundamental. One name. Tough (but vital) times ahead.

Peter



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