FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I KEEP THINKING THAT A SURVEY OF THE UNUK RIVER (e.g., Lake Creek) IS LONG OVERDUE, ESP. GIVEN THE CANADIANS NOW TALKING OF A BIG MINING OPERATION UPRIVER. COULD BE SOME LONG-TOED SALAMANDERS AND OTHER INTERESTING THINGS IN THIS DRAINAGE.

som


On 11/1/2013 2:23 PM, Porter, Boyd (DFG) wrote:

Thanks Joshua, I agree with your speculation. I also found one specimen at the Frog Pond near Ketchikan in 2003 that we handled and held in a terrarium, but my wife and daughter released it at the same location before I could photograph or measure it. Yours is a likely scenario in my estimation. The specimen I have in hand was found on a pallet sitting on a barge in Ketchikan and most likely originated here although the barge had also been at the south end of POW within the same week. Thanks for including me, Boyd

*From:*Joshua T. Ream [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2013 6:57 AM
*To:* S. O. MacDonald
*Cc:* Brian Slough; Bradford Norman; Tessler, David F (DFG); stikine org amphibians; Joshua T. Ream; Porter, Boyd (DFG); Larson, Kristian R (DFG) *Subject:* Re: A Thompson Manuscript re: Ambystoma macrodactylum in BC & AK, etc

I collected two organismal vouchers from the Ward Lake area in 2010 along with several photographic vouchers. These were placed in the University of Alaska Museum (UAM) and were recently submitted to the Herp Reviews Geographic Range section. I have not found any other museum vouchers from Revilla. Given the phenotypic differences and the distance between other populations, Bradford and I have theorized that an egg mass was released at Frog Pond alongside of the Pacific Chorus Frogs.

Joshua T. Ream

Doctoral Student

University of Alaska Fairbanks

7620 Pleasure View Circle

Anchorage, AK 99507

(814) 883-6629


On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:36 AM, "S. O. MacDonald" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    HERE'S A COPY OF THOMPSON RUSSELL PAPER.
    FYI: I worked out of Ketchikan this summer and Boyd Porter and
    Kris Larson (both ADFG) mentioned long-toed salamanders on Revilla
    Island. That right, Boyd? This would be NEW and very interesting.
    Boyd also has a specimen in ETOH taken, if I remember right, from
    a barge at Craig.

    Also of interest was Kris seeing a water shrew on Revilla, the
    second sighting report of this species that I know of for the
    island (the only other island we know they occur is Wrangel).

    SOM

    On 10/29/2013 5:08 PM, Brian Slough wrote:

        Here are the citations for Mark Thompson’s thesis and
        publication that I am aware of:

        Thompson MD. 2003. Phylogeography of the long-toed salamander,
        /Ambystoma macrodactylum/. Unpublished M.Sc. thesis,
        University of Calgary, Calgary, AB. xv + 438 p.

        Thompson, Mark D., and Russell, Anthony P. 2005 .Glacial
        Retreat and its Influence on Migration of Mitochondrial Genes
        in the Long-toed Salamander (/Ambystoma macrodactylum/) in
        Western North America. pp. 205-246 /in/ Climatology,
        Geography, Ecology: Causes of Migration in Organisms. Elewa,
        A.M.T. (ed). Springer-Verlag Publishers, Heidelberg, Germany.

        Brian Slough

        *From:*Bradford Norman [mailto:[email protected]]
        *Sent:* Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:41 PM
        *To:* Tessler, David F (DFG); [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>; stikine org amphibians; Joshua
        T. Ream
        *Subject:* RE: A Thompson Manuscript re: Ambystoma
        macrodactylum in BC & AK, etc

        I don't know if it was published but the last reference cited
        was 2004 and I received it from the authors which were listed
        as [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> and
        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> .  Anyway it would
        be post 2004 -more like 2005-2007?  Do you have contact with
        Lance Lerum or an e-mail for him? I am looking  for my
        Ambystoma poster I sent up to the 1st AK Herp meeting to him. BRN

        ------------------------------------------------------------------------

        From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>;
        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>;
        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>;
        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Subject: RE: A Thompson Manuscript re: Ambystoma macrodactylum
        in BC & AK, etc
        Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:39:50 +0000

        Hi Bradford,

        That manuscript you sent along – where was that published (if
        it was)? When does it date to?

        Thanks,

        David

        David F. Tessler

        Regional Wildlife Biologist, Wildlife Diversity Program

        Alaska Department of Fish and Game

        Division of Wildlife Conservation

        333 Raspberry Road

        Anchorage, Alaska  99518

        Phone: (907) 267-2332

        Fax: (907) 267-2433

        Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

        Web:
        http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifediversity.staff

        *From:*Bradford Norman [mailto:[email protected]]
        *Sent:* Wednesday, August 07, 2013 12:42 PM
        *To:* Joshua T. Ream; sam macdonald; stikine org amphibians
        *Subject:* A Thompson Manuscript re: Ambystoma macrodactylum
        in BC & AK, etc

        I found this in my AK Ambystoma files and thought it was very
        interesting re: Ambystoma macrodactylum and AK & BC
        populations, etc. Long -toed Salamander genetics in Pacific
        NW, etc. BRN

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