Hi Akka,

Thanks for the reply. One question: if (in 2.3) a remote actor system 
becomes permanently quarantined, what do I have to do to re-establish 
communication once the comms problem is fixed? Do I have to restart the 
remote actor system? Or the local one? Or both? 

Cheers

Alistair

On Monday, January 20, 2014 12:41:25 PM UTC, Akka Team wrote:
>
> Hi Alistair,
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Alistair George 
> <[email protected]<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> If I set up a watch on a remote actor (one on a remote actor system) and 
>> the network between me and the remote system fails, I get a Terminated 
>> message almost immediately. In fact, the remote actor hasn't terminated, 
>>
>
> That does not matter. If you use remote DeathWatch, and one of the systems 
> gets unreachable for enough time it will eventually fire Terminated for all 
> the watched actors on the remote system and then quarantines that system so 
> it never comes back again. The deathwatch failure detector 
> (akka.remote.watch-failure-detector) settings controls how sensitive is 
> this decision. If you think that a 1 hour unreachability should be not 
> considered terminal, then you should configure those settings 
> correspondingly.
>  
>
>> and I can still use the ActorRef to send messages to it once comms are 
>> restored. (However, if comms fail a second time I don't get a second 
>> Terminated message.)
>>
>
> This is because we made the mistakes in 2.2.x:
>  - we made quarantine times configurable
>  - we set it to a low value, 60 seconds
>
> After the quarantine elapses the systems can communicate again, regardless 
> of the Terminated message, probably this is what you observed -- and this 
> is exactly why quarantine in 2.3 is permanent.
>  
>
>>
>> "Terminated" and "lost contact" are rather different states, and may need 
>> different handling. Does anyone know of a reliable way I can distinguish 
>> these? 
>>
>
> DeathWatch sends Terminated in the case the remote system is in "lost 
> contact" state for a long time. How long is that time is configurable by 
> the DeathWatch failure detector. "lost contact" events are generated as 
> remote lifecycle events, but I don't recommend using those directly. 
> Message send supposed to be lossy, you can track reachability in your user 
> layer by some heartbeating mechanism if you want it.
>
> Btw, there is another failure detector 
> (akka.remote.transport-failure-detector) that monitors the health of 
> network connections, but it does not generate Terminated events, only 
> reconnect attempts.
>
>  In 2.3 clustering will differentiate between UNREACHABLE events (which 
> can heal) from removals. You probably want to use those features instead of 
> plain remoting.
>  
>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Alistair
>>
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