FWIW, I do prefer the "ditch the AS" approach as well. The world did change quite a bit and IMHO the entire JEE model is flawed, but I don't wan to wake up the trolls ;), so I would suggest to actually look at the reasons (aside form Akka/Scala and everything else) as to why do you think you need AS in the first place and see if you can come up with at least one for which there would not be a simpler/lighter approach. Having said that and going back to your original question about ". . . good way of embedding Akka?", I am not sure if you aware of the JBoss modules. The concept existed in JBoss since v.3 and essentially enables you to deploy pretty much anything as an independent execution environment - including Akka system(s).
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 2:44 PM, √iktor Ҡlang <[email protected]>wrote: > > On Jan 31, 2014 7:58 PM, "Tin Tvrtković" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That sounds great and will be easy. So if I pass in an ExecutionContext, > Akka will use only it for threads? > > If you want to make sure Akka doesn't create any threads then you'll have > to create your own Scheduler too (the default creates its own thread) > > Not sure if Akka IO can be made not to create any threads-you'll have to > check. > > I still recommend to ditch the AS. > > Cheers, > V > > > > > Does Akka care exactly what kind of thread pool is it (unbounded, fixed > size...) or is it strictly application dependent? > > > > Thanks, guys! > > > > On Jan 31, 2014 7:06 PM, "√iktor Ҡlang" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Patrik Nordwall < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:56 PM, √iktor Ҡlang <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Tin Tvrtković <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm aware there are others, proper ways of running Akka. :) > >>>>> > >>>>> Just embedding it like this would make it a much easier sell to the > powers that be at the company. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Well, I'd first start with the suggestion from me, and if that for > some reason doesn't work, then you'll just have to create an > ExecutionServiceConfigurator that uses your container to look up its thread > pool. > >>> > >>> > >>> Passing in the ExecutionContext to the ActorSystem (2.3.0-RC1) would > also be a possibility, unless I have missed something. > >> > >> > >> Absolutely, very good point Patrik! > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> /Patrik > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Friday, January 31, 2014 4:04:59 PM UTC+1, √ wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So why not just run Akka outside of an Application Server and > configure the thread pools in Akka? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Tin Tvrtković <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I guess the answer depends on what you would consider an > alternative. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you're wondering why I don't just let Akka manage its own > threads: this is considered bad practice within an application server. > There are also some corner cases which I don't feel like investigating now > (and worrying about later, potentially). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you're asking why I don't use JCA: I find it less flexible than > JSR 236, it complicates the packaging (RARs and a ton of obscure XML, > ugh...) and again I'd need to make Akka use an existing thread pool. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> In other words, the reasons why JSR 236 was added in the first > place. ;) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:25:04 PM UTC+1, √ wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Why do you prefer to use those thread pools? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Tin Tvrtković < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'm contemplating whether running Akka inside of a JBoss/Wildfly > 8 instance is a good idea. First of all, I'm kind of an Akka newbie so > don't hesitate to correct me if any of my assumptions are incorrect. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'm not really interested in using JCA; I'd much prefer using > the new JSR 236 managed thread pools. Assuming I've configured my AS to > provide me with an adequate executor service, is there a way to spawn an > actor system it? Looking at the development Java API, there's an > ActorSystem$ create method taking an execution context, which can be > created from an executor service. Exactly what kind of thread pool does an > actor system expect (bounded, unbounded...)? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Would this be a good way of embedding Akka? Am I missing > something (like a detail that would render this whole exercize futile)? Is > there a better/canonical way of doing something like this? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance, girls and guys! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Read the docs: http://akka.io/docs/ > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Check the FAQ: http://akka.io/faq/ > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Search the archives: > https://groups.google.com/group/akka-user > >>>>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Akka User List" group. > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > it, send an email to [email protected]. > >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/akka-user. > >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out > . > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>> √ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ——————— > >>>>>>>> Viktor Klang > >>>>>>>> Chief Architect - 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