Patrik,

Thanks a lot. Your inputs would help us a lot.

And for "There is nothing more than the famous Akka Persistence on the 
Query Side: The Conclusion 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/akka-user/MNDc9cVG1To>." there is 
no doubt...its the most interesting post with great heads. I have looked at 
it many times. 

We are using views and any changes to it will impact our code. So want to 
be prepared. That's the reason I wanted to look at design of future views. 
So that few of the changes in our code i will do accommodation now itself.

-Prakhyat M M


On Monday, 20 October 2014 21:52:28 UTC+5:30, Patrik Nordwall wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Prakhyat Mallikarjun <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrik,
>>
>> Thanks for your inputs.
>>
>> Views will be updated. Can we get a look on the design of how view will 
>> be implemented in future?
>>
>
> There is nothing more than the famous Akka Persistence on the Query Side: 
> The Conclusion 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/akka-user/MNDc9cVG1To>.
>
>
>> Is there any possibility the current class 
>> akka.persistence.PersistentView will be renamed or removed. I am asking 
>> from the perspective of migration. 
>>
>
> That is possible. This is the reason why we always release new things as 
> experimental. Sometimes things must be improved based on real world usage.
>  
>
>> What will be the impact on migration from current persistent view 
>> implementation to future changes in PersistentView?
>>
>
> Current functionality of PersistentView is rather limited and it should 
> not be difficult to build something similar on top of the new thing. There 
> will be a decent migration path, but I can't promise that we will provide 
> anything that is source compatible.
>  
>
>>
>> I understand the current PersistentView cannot aggregate events from 
>> multiple PersistentActor. I am aware it will be supported in future version 
>> of akka persistence. I am waiting to look at these changes :) 
>>
>> But, I have query in current implementation of view,
>> 1. Correct me If I am wrong, view can be started with particular sequence 
>> number. The sequence number should be passed as a constructor parameter to 
>> view.
>> 2. My fundamental problem is how to get hold of the last sequence number 
>> read by a view before it was dead? 
>>
>
> You must be prepared to process the same event again, i.e. PersistentView 
> has at-least once semantics.
>
> /Patrik
>  
>
>>
>> -Prakhyat M M
>>
>> On Monday, 20 October 2014 14:15:01 UTC+5:30, Patrik Nordwall wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Prakhyat,
>>>
>>> I can't comment on ahjohannessen proposal, but in general it is 
>>> difficult to create a view that aggregates the event streams of many 
>>> persistent actor instances, and it is also difficult to create a persistent 
>>> view for each persistent actor when you don't know the identifiers up front.
>>>
>>> You can store the identifers in another persistent actor, and let that 
>>> actor be responsible for creating the views. This is not trivial, and one 
>>> of the reasons why we want to improve the persistent views. The core team 
>>> is swamped with other work so it will take a few more months until we can 
>>> start working on the improved persistent views.
>>>
>>> Cluster sharding for the views will only work if you send messages to 
>>> these views, because cluster sharding entry actors are only activated when 
>>> messages are sent to them.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Patrik
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Prakhyat Mallikarjun <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Team,
>>>>
>>>> I am eagerly looking for the answer to this query. Any updates would be 
>>>> appreciated and helpful.
>>>>
>>>> -Prakhyat M M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 12 October 2014 20:59:10 UTC+5:30, Prakhyat Mallikarjun 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ahjohannessen,
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand your point. And I thoroughly agree your inputs. 
>>>>>
>>>>> But the point I want is make is as below....
>>>>> Correct me if I am wrong, the view will always be in lag compared to 
>>>>> the persistent actor. It will always pull the events persisted by 
>>>>> persistent actor. The last seen sequence number in persistent actor might 
>>>>> be different from last pulled sequence number in persistent view.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to take an example consider PersistentActor persist events in 
>>>>> order 1,2,3,4,5,6. The view pulls persisted event from journal in order 
>>>>> 1,2,3,4,5,6 at lag duration of 2-5 secs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider persistent actor persisted 1,2,3,4,5,6. View pull's event 
>>>>> 1,2,3,4. But while handling event 4, exception is thrown. The fault 
>>>>> tolerance case which we are discussing here is view should be 
>>>>> recreated/started from sequence 4 followed by 5,6.
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct me if my understanding is wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Prakhyat M M 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, 12 October 2014 19:35:58 UTC+5:30, ahjohannessen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prakhyat, it is really simple. Just wrap the message in case class 
>>>>>> ViewRead(msg: Any, sequenceNr: Long, persistenceId: String) and maintain 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> pointer of last seen sequenceNr per persistent actor, i.e. 
>>>>>> persistenceId. 
>>>>>> Then you can start "CatchUp" from that.
>>>>>
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