Hello Martynas,

This test is already the simplest scenario we can come up with. It comes 
from a cluster simulation test framework we have developed to simulate our 
business needs.

If we find the time we can write a simple ping-pong test. but not sure if 
this is possible. is there any more logging we can try? or changing 
parameters? (however, i already tried changing the "heartbeat-interval", 
etc.)

Are there any plans to make this more robust in Akka 2.3.7? i fear we need 
to revert back to older Akka versions.

and, can it be that we experience similar issues as reported in this ticket?
https://github.com/akka/akka/issues/13860

Thanks,
Robert

On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:47:42 AM UTC-8, Martynas Mickevičius wrote:
>
> I think these messages are fine. After node{1,2} comes back on node3 
> should associate with new nodes.
>
> From the logs I see that there is quite a lot of custom code running (such 
> as diva.core.engine.PaxosDistributedKeyManager) which is listening for 
> Association/Disassociation Events. Have you tried the restart scenario with 
> some load with simplest actors possible and see if you can reproduce the 
> issue?
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Robert Preissl <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Hello Martynas,
>>
>> Well, I think I can rule this option out because:
>> - without any load on the system (my scenario 1 in my orig. post) a 
>> restart works fine.
>> - also, most of the time node3 can send back messages to node2. but node3 
>> does not send to node1. (however, sometimes both nodes, node1 and node2 do 
>> not hear back from node3)
>> - and we also tried with ActorSelection and it did not work.
>>
>> is it suspicious to see Disassociated messages? or is this just a symptom?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert
>>
>> On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:15:42 AM UTC-8, Martynas Mickevičius wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Robert,
>>>
>>> as you mentioned and from the logs you provided its seems that messages 
>>> are flowing from node{1,2} to node3 after restart, but not to the other 
>>> direction.
>>>
>>> Would it be possible that your application tries to send messages from 
>>> node3 to node{1,2} using ActorRefs which were resolved before the restart 
>>> of node{1,2}? ActorRef includes actor UID which changes after Actor is 
>>> stopped and started again, which happens upon node restart. Here is 
>>> <https://github.com/2m/sandbox-akka-remote/blob/fd61036875bcb622e6a5657c16d879bcc7b6b21b/src/main/scala/NodeRestart.scala>
>>>  
>>> a quick example code that illustrates that situation.
>>>
>>> If so, you should send messages using ActorSelection or re-resolve 
>>> ActorRefs after node restart or periodically.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Robert Preissl <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Endre,
>>>>
>>>> First of all, thanks for replying so quickly!
>>>>
>>>> Second, I need to mention that we use Akka remoting. and not Akka 
>>>> clustering (yet). not sure if this makes a difference.
>>>>
>>>> What I mean that in our restart scenario (where first node1 and node2 
>>>> are simultaneously restarted. and then node3) when node1 and node2 are 
>>>> coming back up, it seems that the connection node1 -> node3 works fine. 
>>>> but 
>>>> the connection node3 -> node1 does not.
>>>>
>>>> So, to answer your question, yes, it seems we loose messages from node3.
>>>>
>>>> I attached more detail logs below. (and please excuse the many log 
>>>> lines; i tried to clean it up as much as possible)
>>>>
>>>> what is interesting to see is this line:
>>>> *processing Event(Disassociated 
>>>> [akka.tcp://[email protected]:8900 
>>>> <http://[email protected]:8900>] -> 
>>>> [akka.tcp://[email protected]:8900 
>>>> <http://[email protected]:8900>]*
>>>>
>>>> 10.57.0.43 is node3. and 10.57.0.41 is node1, by the way.
>>>>
>>>> so, the connection between node3 and node1 is Disassociated; which 
>>>> explains maybe why node1 never hears back from node3 when it tries to sync 
>>>> up.
>>>>
>>>> We looked a bit in the akka source code and found that stopping an 
>>>> EndpointWriter (I think) triggers a "Disassociated" to be fired, right? 
>>>> and 
>>>> we can see this stop in a few log lines above:
>>>>
>>>> *[akka://DivaPCluster/system/endpointManager/reliableEndpointWriter-akka.tcp%3A%2F%2FDivaPCluster%4010.57.0.41%3A8900-0/endpointWriter]
>>>>  
>>>> akka.remote.EndpointWriter - stopping*
>>>>
>>>> so, why is it stopping? is this our problem here?
>>>>
>>>> the logs from node3 are attached as a file.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 12:55:04 PM UTC-8, Robert Preissl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am having a problem in my remote Akka production system, which 
>>>>> consists of 3 nodes running with the latest version of Akka (2.3.6.):
>>>>>
>>>>> In more details, I am experiencing errors with "*rolling restarts*" 
>>>>> of the cluster (for deployment, etc.  we cannot afford any downtime), 
>>>>> where 
>>>>> a restart happens in the following sequence
>>>>> 1.) restart node1 and node2.
>>>>> 2.) once 1. completed, restart node3.
>>>>>
>>>>> *but we only observe failures once there is a load (even small load) 
>>>>> on the system*. So, I want to describe two scenarios:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Scenario 1 - no load on the system: Restart works.*
>>>>>
>>>>> if there is no load on the system at all, the restarting seems to work 
>>>>> fine. I.e., with detailed logging I can observe that node3 logs the 
>>>>> following events: (in chronological order)
>>>>>
>>>>> 13:09:48.769 WARN  [akka.tcp://DivaPCluster@NODE_
>>>>> 3:8900/system/endpointManager/reliableEndpointWriter-akka.tcp0-1] 
>>>>> akka.remote.ReliableDeliverySupervisor - Association with remote 
>>>>> system [akka.tcp://DivaPCluster@NODE_2:8900] has failed, address is 
>>>>> now gated for [5000] ms. Reason is: [Disassociated].
>>>>> 13:09:48.823 WARN  [akka.tcp://DivaPCluster@NODE_
>>>>> 3:8900/system/endpointManager/reliableEndpointWriter-akka.tcp0-0] 
>>>>> akka.remote.ReliableDeliverySupervisor - Association with remote 
>>>>> system [akka.tcp://DivaPCluster@NODE_1:8900] has failed, address is 
>>>>> now gated for [5000] ms. Reason is: [Disassociated].
>>>>>
>>>>> 13:10:10.661 DEBUG [Remoting] Remoting - Associated 
>>>>> [akka.tcp://DivaPCluster@NODE_3:8900] <- 
>>>>> [akka.tcp://DivaPCluster@NODE_2:8900]
>>>>> 13:10:10.987 DEBUG [Remoting] Remoting - Associated 
>>>>> [akka.tcp://DivaPCluster@NODE_3:8900] <- 
>>>>> [akka.tcp://DivaPCluster@NODE_1:8900]
>>>>>
>>>>> Since node1 and node2 restart, it is fine that the association is 
>>>>> gated between node3 -> node1 (and between node3 -> node2) for a while.
>>>>> And I assume it becomes active again since "a successful inbound 
>>>>> connection is accepted from a remote system during Gate it automatically 
>>>>> transitions to Active" (as you describe in 
>>>>> http://doc.akka.io/docs/akka/snapshot/java/remoting.html) 
>>>>>  
>>>>> this can be verified since I can see the logs on node1 that it tries 
>>>>> to connect at this point in time after the restart: 13:10:10.861 (and the 
>>>>> connection becomes active on node3; managing node3 -> node1; at time 
>>>>> 13:10:10.987 as you can see above)
>>>>>
>>>>> so, everything cool here and the system restarts fine!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Scenario 2 - easy load on the system: Restart fails due to 
>>>>> Unrecoverable "gated" state*
>>>>>
>>>>> Similar to Scenario 1 above, I can observe the "gated" messages for 
>>>>> links  node3 -> node1 and node3 -> node2.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I never see that the links become active again! and the 
>>>>> restart never recovers and I need to manually stop my nodes and start up 
>>>>> again.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is surprising since I clearly see that node1 and node2 (after 
>>>>> they restarted) send message to node3. and node3 successfully logs the 
>>>>> reception of these messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, why does in this scenario the connection not become active again?? 
>>>>> It is a successful inbound connection that should make the link active 
>>>>> again as you describe on your site?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any help on this is greatly appreciated. otherwise we need to roll 
>>>>> back to Scala 2.10 (or 2.9) and an older version of Akka.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
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