Interesting responses, thanks!

As a question to the core team, should the problems Greg raised be reported as 
issues? What would be appropriate release target if so?

Greg, I'm going to be busy with a Java-land client for the next couple of 
weeks, but I will do my best to clone your project and build some PRs if I can.

Cheers, Brian

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 3:04 PM, tigerfoot <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Actually that's not quite right...its not nearly that simple.  These "oceans" 
> like Mesos need to auto-assign the ports so while, yes, 2.4 gives dual 
> binding capabilities this is only useful when you know the ports!
> 
> So how do you do that?  That's much more complex.
> 
> I've got a hello-world remote project in github that shows how to do this on 
> Amazon's container service ECS, using some AWS-specific capabilities, namely 
> to call an api from within a running Docker to find the IP of the host its 
> running on (not the Docker-internal IP).  From there other magic is possible. 
>  I can successfully launch a bunch of Dockers into ECS and it will figure out 
> what's-what and bind to the dynamic ports ECS assigns, and from there I can 
> talk to them.
> 
> See here for info: https://github.com/gzoller/docker-exp/tree/remoting
> 
> (NOTE: The clustering branch of this project is still in-work, and will not 
> function properly yet, but soon will using the same principles.  My 
> expectations is that a cluster in an ocean will need to use pub-sub or 
> similar mechanism to identify actors "somewhere" to talk to, but we'll see...)
> 
> You're going to have to adapt this for Mesos.  If you so, shoot a pull 
> request to my project so I've got it. :-)
> 
> Remoting in oceans is ok, but I suspect what you're really shooting for will 
> be the clustering.... fire a bunch of nodes wrapped in Dockers out there and 
> have them self-detect and then just talk to them w/o having to know where 
> they are actually running.  I'm working on this now....
> 
> Greg
> 
> On Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 1:27:59 PM UTC-5, √ wrote:
> Akka 2.4 solves the docker problem with supporting an external address and 
> one internal.
> 
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> Cheers,
> √
> 
> On 18 Jun 2015 19:28, "Jason Martens" <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
> I have heard from another co-worker that Akka remoting is very difficult on 
> Mesos using Docker, because of the random ports that it uses to connect. 
> Docker expects you to specify which ports are going to be used by your 
> container, and if you don't know ahead of time it can be difficult to 
> support. Keep that in mind when considering deploying using a container.
> 
> Jason
> 
> On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 12:36:52 PM UTC-7, Brian Topping wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Just curious if anyone on the list has tried to blend Akka and Mesos at a 
> level that is more granular than the JVM. For those that have heard about it 
> but don't know much about it's core, Mesos is using kernel cgroups to provide 
> ultra light weight virtualization with very low overhead for startup and 
> shutdown as well as being able to provide resource constraints to requesting 
> entities.
> 
> In one view, it might not make sense to go more granular than the JVM. After 
> all, Mesos can't run JVM classes without one. On the other hand, I'm thinking 
> it might be very useful to have a standardized Akka container that would 
> allow actor distribution with consistent stream-oriented APIs that took care 
> of all the clustering concerns with robust, well-established techniques. 
> There's certainly a lot that can be done here, for instance with "warm nodes" 
> that are pooled for usage spikes and could reduce first transaction latency 
> even further with no change to semantics.
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> Brian
> 
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