Ok, my assumption is right 
(see 
https://github.com/akka/akka/blob/master/akka-cluster-tools/src/main/scala/akka/cluster/pubsub/DistributedPubSubMediator.scala#L669).
 
Is there a way to work around this? I don't want to wait some random time 
interval after leaving before actually shutting down. If not just the 
removing but already the exiting would remove the node, then one would have 
a more robust way (without random waits) to gracefully leave a 
cluster/pubsub.

Also another question arises here: Wouldn't it be good, to temporarily 
remove nodes from pubsub that are unreachable and readd them when they are 
reachable again?

Am Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2016 22:27:45 UTC+2 schrieb Christian Hoffmeister:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a sample application where two nodes join an Akka cluster. On both 
> nodes there is an actor running registered to DistributedPubSubMediator and 
> both are sending a Ping once per second (that hits either itself or the 
> other node).
>
> Then I gracefully shut down Node B (leave cluster, wait for MemberRemoved 
> event, wait some seconds, terminate actor system, wait for termination, 
> exit the jvm).
>
> But even though both nodes see Node B leaving through gossip convergence 
> at 22:16:58, Node A keeps the left Node B in the PubSub (you see this with 
> the RECEIVED PONG(nr, ping sender, pong responder)).
>
> Why does PubSub not remove actors from exited nodes, but only actors from 
> removed nodes (remove of Node B on Node A happens 4 seconds after exiting 
> of Node B). In my case I only do not loose messages, because Node B is 
> waiting another 10 seconds after it sees its one remove (which again, is 4 
> seconds earlier than Node A sees Node B removed).
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Christian
>
>
> Output Node A
>
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:23 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(0,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:23 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberUp(Member(address = 
> akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551, status = Up))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:23 CEST 2016 CLUSTER LeaderChanged(Some(akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:23 CEST 2016 CLUSTER 
> RoleLeaderChanged(api,Some(akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:23 CEST 2016 CLUSTER 
> SeenChanged(true,Set(akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:24 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(1,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:25 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(2,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:26 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(3,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:28 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(4,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:29 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(5,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:30 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(6,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:31 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(7,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:32 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(8,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:33 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(9,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:34 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(10,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:35 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(11,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:36 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(12,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:37 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(13,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:38 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(14,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:39 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(15,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:40 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(16,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:41 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(17,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:42 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(18,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:43 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(19,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:44 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(20,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:45 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(21,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:46 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(22,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:47 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(23,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:48 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(24,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberJoined(Member(address = 
> akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552, status = Joining))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(25,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER 
> SeenChanged(true,Set(akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551, akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER ReachabilityChanged()
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberUp(Member(address = 
> akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552, status = Up))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER 
> SeenChanged(false,Set(akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER 
> SeenChanged(true,Set(akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551, akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER ReachabilityChanged()
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:50 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(26,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:51 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(27,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:52 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(28,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:53 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(29,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:54 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(30,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:55 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(31,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:56 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(32,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:57 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(33,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(34,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberLeft(Member(address = 
> akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552, status = Leaving))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER ReachabilityChanged()
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberExited(Member(address = 
> akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552, status = Exiting))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER 
> SeenChanged(true,Set(akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:59 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(35,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:00 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(36,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:01 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(37,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:02 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(38,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:02 CEST 2016 CLUSTER 
> UnreachableMember(Member(address = akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552, 
> status = Exiting))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:02 CEST 2016 CLUSTER 
> ReachabilityChanged(akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551 -> akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552: Unreachable [Unreachable] (1))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:02 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberRemoved(Member(address 
> = akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552, status = Removed),Exiting)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:02 CEST 2016 CLUSTER ReachabilityChanged()
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:03 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(39,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:04 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(40,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:05 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(41,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:06 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(42,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:07 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(43,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:08 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(44,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:09 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(45,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:10 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(46,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:10 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberLeft(Member(address = 
> akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551, status = Leaving))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:11 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(47,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:11 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberExited(Member(address = 
> akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551, status = Exiting))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:11 CEST 2016 CLUSTER ClusterShuttingDown
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:11 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberRemoved(Member(address 
> = akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551, status = Removed),Exiting)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:11 CEST 2016 CLUSTER LeaderChanged(None)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:11 CEST 2016 CLUSTER RoleLeaderChanged(api,None)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:11 CEST 2016 CLUSTER SeenChanged(true,Set())
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:17:11 CEST 2016 CLUSTER ReachabilityChanged()
>
>
> Output Node B
>
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:48 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(0,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberUp(Member(address = 
> akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551, status = Up))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberJoined(Member(address = 
> akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552, status = Joining))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER LeaderChanged(Some(akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER 
> RoleLeaderChanged(api,Some(akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER 
> SeenChanged(true,Set(akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551, akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER ReachabilityChanged()
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(1,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberUp(Member(address = 
> akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552, status = Up))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:49 CEST 2016 CLUSTER ReachabilityChanged()
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:50 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(2,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:51 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(3,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:52 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(4,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:53 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(5,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:54 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(6,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:55 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(7,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:56 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(8,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:57 CEST 2016 RECEIVE Pong(9,akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552,akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberLeft(Member(address = 
> akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552, status = Leaving))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER 
> SeenChanged(false,Set(akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER 
> SeenChanged(true,Set(akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552, akka.tcp://
> airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER ReachabilityChanged()
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberExited(Member(address = 
> akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552, status = Exiting))
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER ReachabilityChanged()
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER ClusterShuttingDown
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberRemoved(Member(address 
> = akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2551, status = Removed),Up)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER MemberRemoved(Member(address 
> = akka.tcp://airfocus@127.0.0.1:2552, status = Removed),Exiting)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER LeaderChanged(None)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER RoleLeaderChanged(api,None)
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER SeenChanged(true,Set())
> [info] Thu Jun 23 22:16:58 CEST 2016 CLUSTER ReachabilityChanged()
>
>
>
>

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