I recently spoke with a sales rep/developer from Data Synapse, one of
the more established providers of grid systems.  If you guys are
interested, I'd be glad to share what I found regarding implementation
notes, production-world use and a relative comparison of features.  If
anyone else has had a talk with similar companies, I'd love to compare
notes.  

Regarding the Hierarchical Grids, most commercial providers have this
feature.  It's purpose is in identifying IT costs within large
organizations (ie - computing usage per sub-group within a company).
One of Alchemi's features is the ability to track usage per grid user as
a way to identify a particular user's "cost" of computing.  This seems
in line with the purpose of a hierarchical grid, so it makes sense to
include that functionality as well.

On another note, is it a goal of the Alchemi team to produce a
commercial-ready software system or is it meant as a test-bed to explore
algorithms/approaches within the distributed computing space?

- Luis

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Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:50 AM
To: Jonathan Mitchem
Cc: Ronnie LEE; [email protected];
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Subject: Re: [Alchemi-developers] Re: [Alchemi-users] How to string all
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Hi Jonathan,

It will take around a month of work, to enable heirarchical managers and

test it well enough to be given out online.
However, the concept of hierarchical managers itself is one which we are

debating in our research lab at the moment ,
and a P2P based architecture seems to be finding favor among most people

here. But implementing the p2p architecture will take much much longer,
with a directly, a search algorithm and all that (escpecially 
considering that we, as a research group will need to do better than 
existing systems/algorithms, so we can push for something novel /
better).

Cheers
Krishna

Jonathan Mitchem wrote:

>Ronnie -
>
>If my understanding is correct, you can designate one server to be the
>top-level manager, and you can set up every other manager to connect
>to that manager as an "intermediate manager".  Each application
>submitted should connect (via however many layers) to the top level
>manager which then distributes the threads appropriately to all the
>base level executors.
>
>Take a look at Figure 4a in the following document:
>http://alchemi.net/files/alchemi_techreport.pdf
>
>However, it appears that the ability to do this is disabled in the
>v1.0.0 release of Alchemi.
>
>(Tibor, Krishna, others: What's it going to take to get this working?)
>
>
>Jonathan
>
>On 2/9/06, Ronnie LEE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>If each organisation sets up their own Alchemi installation, how can
we
>>string them up when we want to harness the entire set up?
>>
>>ronnie
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