Hello, On 03/28/2007 10:51 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: >> Are you sure?
> This was explained to me by François Bergeron, so pretty much yes :-) Since I am a notorious non-believer, I have still have my doubts. Let me explain. 1) Section 1.4 equation (14) states the "..., we have the combinatorial equation S = E \circ C". 2) Section 1.2 "Combinatorial Equality" states 3 types of equality. a) identity (written =) b) equipotency (written \equiv) c) combinatorial equality (written =) Clearly, under 1) it is not written \equiv. And since we don't have identity, it can only mean 2c). > (up to the point that we are speaking about the same thing). Actually, > I think he told me this example was in the Book. > The point is that relabeling a permutation in cycle notation > corresponds to the action of S_n on itself by *conjugation*, and not > *on the right* as when you relabel a permutation in array notation. > Example, relabeling by the transposition (1,2): > > (1,2) (3) = 213 > > || || > \/ \/ > > (1,2) (3) <> 123 In fact, I started to implement permutations as being in an array representation. When I wanted to implement the generation of isomorphism types, I realized that I had not enough bits to represent a representative of an isomorphism type of a permutation. So the representation became Array List L for Permutation and List L for Cycle and LinearOrder. That is the fun if one implements labelled and unlabelled structures at the same time. One realises quickly that something doesn't work. I am pretty sure that S = E \circ C stands for an equality of functors (i.e there is a "natural" isomorphism between the two functors). Of course LinearOrder \ne Permutation = Compose(SetSpecies, Cycle) (where the latter is only an isomorphism in AC). Ralf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Aldor-combinat-devel mailing list Aldor-combinat-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aldor-combinat-devel