Hello,

On 03/28/2007 10:51 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote:
>> Are you sure?

> This was explained to me by François Bergeron, so pretty much yes :-)

Since I am a notorious non-believer, I have still have my doubts. Let me 
explain.

1) Section 1.4 equation (14) states the
    "..., we have the combinatorial equation S = E \circ C".
2) Section 1.2 "Combinatorial Equality" states 3 types of equality.
    a) identity                (written =)
    b) equipotency             (written \equiv)
    c) combinatorial equality  (written =)

Clearly, under 1) it is not written \equiv. And since we don't have 
identity, it can only mean 2c).

> (up to the point that we are speaking about the same thing). Actually,
> I think he told me this example was in the Book.

> The point is that relabeling a permutation in cycle notation
> corresponds to the action of S_n on itself by *conjugation*, and not
> *on the right* as when you relabel a permutation in array notation.

> Example, relabeling by the transposition (1,2):
> 
>       (1,2) (3)   =   213
> 
>             ||          ||
>             \/          \/
> 
>         (1,2) (3)  <>  123

In fact, I started to implement permutations as being in an array 
representation. When I wanted to implement the generation of isomorphism 
types, I realized that I had not enough bits to represent a 
representative of an isomorphism type of a permutation. So the 
representation became

   Array List L

for Permutation and

   List L

for Cycle and LinearOrder. That is the fun if one implements labelled 
and unlabelled structures at the same time. One realises quickly that 
something doesn't work.

I am pretty sure that S = E \circ C stands for an equality of functors 
(i.e there is a "natural" isomorphism between the two functors).

Of course LinearOrder \ne Permutation = Compose(SetSpecies, Cycle) 
(where the latter is only an isomorphism in AC).

Ralf



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