New machine:

   I've gotten access to nagoya.apache.org.  It is billed as a fast machine
   from Sun.  So far, I've not seen the speed.  Gump runs that take 3 to 4
   hours on Pentium III's seem to take 6 on Nagoya.

Proposed option: parallel copy operations:

   One way to address the speed issue is to do the cleanup and copying of
   build directories in parallel with the checkouts.  In particular, the
   order can be:

     rm -rf  A &; update cvs/A; wait; cp -r cvs/A A &; rm -rf B &; update cvs/B; wait; 
cp -r cvs/B B &; ...

   This change could bring Nagoya back to parity with a Pentium.

Catastrophic dependency failure insurance:

   Suggestion from Geir Magnusson Jr: if at the completion of every
   successful build, the output jars are copied to a well defined location
   and then this location is used as the source for resolving dependencies,
   then we have a system that automatically upgrades.  I kinda like this
   idea, and am curious what other people think...

   This discussion was motivated by yesterday's xml-xerces build failure...

Defining a few terms:

   I think of gump as a PROFILE.  A set of PROJECTs and TAGs that at least
   one person sees as an interesting configuration.  The proposal
   directory, contains a codebase which while fun to write and useful at
   the moment, I view as totally expendable.  Hopefully other people will
   someday define other profiles of interesting configurations.

   I see a WORKSPACE as corresponding to a physical set of files on your
   hard drive.  Hopefully in the future, the definition of a workspace can
   be produced by combining and subsetting profiles, as well as adding in
   additional projects.

   I see a build TARGET as something you reference to specify what you want
   built.  At the moment, only projects and a special target named "all"
   are defined, but it would be nice if you could define your own subsets

Repositories:

   I've begun work defining the repository in a manner more consistent with
   the way Alexandria does it and yet definine the elements that make up a
   cvs root in a more fine grained manner.  This will allow sourceforge and
   exolab to be considered as a single repository even though there are
   changes to the actual cvs root required when going from one module to
   another.

Future plans:

   Once I get the DTDs for Gump closer to Alexandria's, I still plan on
   spliting this profile out to a separate CVS module with a considerably
   larger base of committers.  I do plan to get back to the Python
   implementation,   I'm also planning on adding in the various exolab J2EE
   projects - hence the motivation for enhancing the way that repositories
   are defined.

- Sam Ruby


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