On Wed, 2001-08-29 at 06:43, Sam Ruby wrote:
> Josh Lucas wrote:
> >
> > Ok, so one thing which I would really like to do with this mail is to
> > generate some discussion about something other than Gump. That isn't to
> > say that I don't want to include Gump in the future of Alexandria but I
> > want to start with what is currently here and move on from there.
>
> +1
>
> > I would also like to make it clear that I'm not trying to 'take over'
> > the project and steer it somewhere that people don't want it to go. I
> > have some ideas which I think would be cool but there is also plenty of
> > things in what is currently here to work on. Also, I'd love to hear
> > from either Kevin Burton or Jeff Martin as to their thoughts on these
> > things. I'm planning on dropping each of them a note to guage their
> > thinking.
>
> IMHO, Alexandria is desparately in need of someone to 'take over' the
> project.
>
> > According to the web site, Alexandria was created to:
> >
> > create a global documentation and source organization system to help
> > people understand source code and to share code across projects.
> >
> > Personally, I think this goal shortchanges Alexandria and limits the use
> > by others. I would much rather see Alexandria become a build/test
> > system which can be easily integrated into existing projects. There
> > would be individual Ant tasks for things like JXR, Changelogs and others
> > which would be usable without any additional file creation. The
> > task/components could also fit together to create something similar to
> > the Gump idea of watching multiple projects.
>
> +1. The reason why Gump is here is that it was envisioned that Alexandria
> was going to grow into the direction you state. The hope was that any and
> all code that currently exists in Gump, AntGump, and Maven would either be
> absorbed or discarded in favor of a unified Alexandria code base.
>
> The only artifacts expected to remain - in one form or another - is the
> project definitions. I had some discussions with Jeff Martin about this a
> while back, and made a number of changes as a result of these discussions.
>
Right. That sounds like a very sane plan. My hope is that there will
be a combination of use for Alexandria (with
Gump/AntGump/Maven)(sidenote, perhaps we should just say GAM to indicate
that). One part will be the individual pieces for a project to use and
the other part will be the ability to create a centralized
build/test/etc server.
> > In order to get to the point where Alexandria has components which can
> > be used, a decision has to be made to no longer support the idea of the
> > XSD files and Castor. If others support this idea (if not, maybe I'll
> > just put it under the proposal directory), here area a few things which
> > I'll start with:
>
> +1. Use of Castor by Alexandria is overkill (IMHO).
>
yes, I think that will be the first beast I attempt to slay.
josh
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