Yes, Milanos (75's) are real Alfas designed at Arese by Alfa Romeo
engineers using real Alfa engines and transmissions and suspensions.
My GTV6 has had a Milano Verde 3-liter V-6 engine and transaxle
installed in it with S-Cams and a modified Bosch ECU called a
"Pandora's Box". But all of these cars, the GTV-6, the SZ30, the 75,
the 164, were all designed at Arese by Alfa Romeo engineers either
before of during Alfa's acquisition by Fiat. It took Fiat almost 20
years to completely kill-off all Alfa DNA. The 156, 166, 147 etc. were
the first Fiat-designed Alfas, and even those still had SOME real Alfa
motors and transmissions in them - Especially the the V-6 and its
descendants. That engine lasted until about 2005, when it was replaced
by an ill-begotten piece of utter crap sourced from General Motors and
re-worked by Fiat to be an "Alfa" engine. Even it's gone now, and
there are NO V-6s (or V-8s) available in any Alfa any more. In fact
there are NO Alfa motors left at all! All you have are several Fiat
4s: the 1.4 liter Multi-aire engine used in the US Fiat 500, a 1750
gas engine, a 2-liter gas engine and a 4-cylinder turbo-Diesel. These
same engines are also available in a number of Fiat models and Lancia
models and soon, will be running around this country in various
Chrysler products. Already, if Yo buy a Fiat 500, you've essentially
got an Alfa MiTo. Except for some minor cosmetic differences, they're
exactly the same car. In fact, that fancy Multi-Air engine that the US
500 has is available in Europe only on the Alfa Mito, It's only the US
version of the Fiat that gets that motor. But the next incarnation of
the European 500's will get the engine too, I understand, making even
those versions of the MiTo and 500 exactly the same cars.
George Graves
'86 GTV-6 3.0 'S'
On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:13 AM, Ed wrote:
Hi George,
I have owned a couple of Milano Verde's which were real Alfa's and I
am going to install a '92 164 engine in my GTV6, but it will still
be a real Alfa.
Regards,
Ed
----- Original Message ----- From: "George Graves" <[email protected]
>
To: "Ed" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: [alfa] George G. hit the nail on the head!
The last REAL Alfa Romeo was the SZ30 "Il Mostro" from 1991-1993
and it was never Federalized so that it could be sold here in the
USA.
George Graves
'86 GTV-6 3.0 'S'
On Jan 13, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Ed wrote:
More excellent contributions from George. Driving a real Alfa
Romeo is a
unique experience. I own a '79 and an '85, I have sold a few
others and I am
unlikely to own any that were built after my current ones.
Ed Prytherch, Columbia SC
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