On 21/04/2019 18:07, Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 11:37 AM Pierre Labastie
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I've read a little more about this [1], and wants to summarize here what I
>> understand. Note that I've not checked that what I say is valid in countries
>> other than US (I've just seen yesterday, when looking at W3m, that a true 
>> open
>> source license is impossible in Japan). jhalfs has been based in US from its
>> beginning, so let us consider it is under the US law:
>> - All contributors are copyright holders. There's no need to register to be a
>> copyright holder, and there is no notion of a minimum contribution to be a
>> copyright holder. Actually, all contributors have made substantial
>> contributions, so the point about minimal contribution is not relevant here.
>> - If there is no license, nobody has right to use, distribute, modify, parts
>> he or she has not written, unless given explicit permission! Even other
>> contributors have no right to modify what is already written! This is the aim
>> of the license to relax such permissions.
>> - Jeremy, the initiator of the project has chosen the GPLv2 license, so all
>> contributions are under this license. Changing to another license is possible
>> only if the new license is compatible with the previous one, unless the
>> copyright holders agree to change to an incompatible license. Here, the only
>> compatible license is GPLv3. AGPLv3 is not (too restrictive), LGPLv3 is not
>> (too permissive), and other common licenses (MIT, Apache, Mozilla) are too
>> permissive too. At this point, we have two possibilities:
>>     - go to GPLv3 (or keep GLPv2, but it is not well suited to modern ways of
>>       collaborating).
>>     - Ask the seven contributors whether they accept a more permissive 
>> license
>>       (I would push for MIT. Other licenses are not very sensible for 
>> jhalfs).
> 
> My preference would be to try this first, seeking permission to move
> to MIT. If that fails what issue is there with keeping GPLv2? I
> believe a move to Github does not really impact the license and I'm
> not really a huge fan of GPLv3, although admittedly it's been a while
> since I looked at its details. Overall, I think it's just more complex
> that it needs to be. I like the simplicity of MIT or BSD licenses.
> 
>> - Gihub has two types of repo:
>>     - private, means a few collaborators (maximum of 4 with free github) can
>>       access the repository, but it is not visible to anybody else
>>     - public, means it is visible to anybody, and anybody can be given 
>> commits
>>       right, but there are again to possibilities:
>>        - owned by an individual, who has all the administrative rights.
>>        - owned by an organization. Means there may be several owners, which
>>          may give various rights to users (administration, commit, etc, I've
>>          not read it in full yet)
> 
> Private would make it hard to collaborate and I think kind of defeats
> the purpose. Given the history of ALFS, I'd say an organization (you
> can create one and invite others to be admins) makes the most sense.

OK, I'll send a mail to all the other five contributors (I think I can
consider having Jeremy's agreement, and mine). I agree with creating an
organization. Ideas for name?

Pierre
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