Ah okay. Thanks. Yeah using the Jaws curser can be hit and miss. Oh well I guess. We'll see when I get that XPS I guess.

On 6/12/2018 7:32 PM, Aman Singer wrote:
Hi,

        Recording is more or less usable. Again, the problem with Plex, I 
found, was that it was just too much work. This is TV, not surgery, I am simply 
not willing to put in huge effort because, for example, the link isn't 
labelled, or you have to use object nav/jaws cursor to access things... You get 
the idea. You can record, and can do so by show or immediately, as I recall 
(it's been a week or so since I cancelled the subscription). With Next PVR, 
recording is inaccessible, so far as I could find.

        You write:
I also emagin setting up your tooner/tooners wasn't accessible eitehr.

        Actually, it was. Channel scanning and tuner setup generally is 
accessible, I didn't even find it difficult and I had and needed no sighted 
help.

You write:
So yeah they're all basically kinda meh is what you're saying than.

        Honestly, the best of them are meh. The worst of them are hopelessly 
unusable. AverMedia's application is so much of a mess that it causes issues 
with the screen reader itself. Next PVR is unusable. I don't want to report bad 
news, but unfortunately, I haven't found something that is easy to use and 
works well. The current state of play, as I understand it and so far as I know 
it, is that if you must use something, use plex but don't expect to enjoy it.
Aman


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 10:09 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Software such as Plex.

Ah no my friend you're verry helpfull. Well what I would do once I get an XPS 
8930 is like you said. The guide watch TV and record. So how did recording go 
or did you not get into the DVR stuff? I also emagin setting up your 
tooner/tooners wasn't accessible eitehr. But nor was it in Windows Media 
Center. Shame on Microsoft. But anyways yeah just to make things a little 
clearer that's my agenda with this. Especially the DVR thing. Sometimes ya miss 
things like when cute little Ariana Grande hostedSNL. Ah but had I had Media 
Center or 1 of these replacements, kinda sorta, I coulda DVR'ed it.


On 6/11/2018 7:57 PM, Aman Singer wrote:
Hi,

        I have had some experience with these applications and am not 
particularly happy with any of them. Whether you will be, I think, depends upon 
what you'd like to do and the extent to which you want to use advanced features.
        As for Plex, it's usable, but that's all that can be said. There are 
many unlabeled links in the windows web-based application, the Android app is a 
pain both because of lack of labelling and because it seems to have keyboard 
issues over and above those in Android more generally, and I haven't tried the 
IOS app. I can, on the windows/web version, scan for channels, watch them, and 
use the program guide in a sense, but it is not quick or easy to do. Note that 
I have only used Plex to try to access a TV tuner with their premium product, I 
prefer to use other media players to play my own offline content and, given 
Plex's accessibility issues, I wouldn't use it as a cloud media player even if 
I wanted such a player. Note also that I am not able to access closed 
captioning at all.
        I've also tried next PVR, but it is almost useless. The keyboard 
shortcuts only work to do a few things, the window is not accessible at all and 
the EPG is not usable. There is no access to closed captioning.
        I haven't tried WinTV's stuff recently, but when I tried it some years 
ago, it was hopeless unless all you wanted to do was to change channels.
        I'm honestly not sure of any decent application for any operating 
system which will give access to over-the-air or cable broadcasts. I would 
appreciate any correction or suggestions, and am sorry to be of so little help.
Aman



-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 11:41 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Software such as Plex.

Hi. Has anyone here tried stuff like Plex? Cause that seems to be the biggest 
thing people are using to kinda sorta replace the epic Windows Media Center. 
Shame real shame on Microsoft for doing away with it. But in any case I did 
wander how accessible or even usable any of these other programs are. Do any of 
you either yourselves or because of family have an HD Home Run Prime? If so 
have you tried the apps? They any usable? What about Haupauge's Win TV app for 
their Wibn TV tooners?




















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