That's compression though, and not really connected with the sample size. 
You're right though, high frequency sounds like cymbal splashes are always the 
first thing to be affected by heavy compression.

I think the human ear "tops out" at around 22,000 khz. That doesn't mean you 
don't get benefits from higher sample rates, but they will be pretty subtle for 
mere listening. The human voice? Forget it.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: August 8, 2018 2:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder

Hi!
I guess i always listen to loud *smile*.
Hardrock and heavy metal is not made for low voume listening.
BUt actually if the music is in compressed mp3 i can hear differences when they 
smash the cymbal.
/A

> 7 aug. 2018 kl. 20:16 skrev Dane Trethowan <[email protected]>:
> 
> Between say 48 and 96K? Yes there is an audible difference for sure.
> You probably won’t hear that unless you’re really listening with the volume 
> at a reasonable level - not too loud of course I did say reasonable -.
> 
> 
>> On 8 Aug 2018, at 3:30 am, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> But can you hear the diference?
>> /A
>> 
>>> 6 aug. 2018 kl. 14:42 skrev Dane Trethowan <[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>> Yep Blu-Ray goes up to 192K but that’s different from the DVD 5.1 channels 
>>> you’re talking about as most are sampled from analogue 48K.
>>> I’ll say it again just to make things clear and avoid confusion.
>>> Nothing wrong with 48K but it isn’t a high sampling rate if you want to 
>>> make top quality recordings.
>>> Why Apple chose to cut things at 48K? Well only they know.
>>> So therefore I wouldn’t bother doing any studio mastering or recording live 
>>> bands with an iPhone as you could do better with other devices.
>>> As has been pointed out, voice recordings will be perfectly fine and do 
>>> sound very good through the built-in microphone as well as external 
>>> microphones.
>>> So then we come back to the next question of cost.
>>> Now I don’t know how much an external microphone for an iPhone costs these 
>>> days but I do remember purchasing my Blue Yeti which I’ve used with my 
>>> iPhone and I’ve used with my Android devices along with Windows, PC’s, Mac 
>>> etc.
>>> The Blue Yetti cost me nearly $300 which could easily buy me a dedicated 
>>> recorder with better quality audio.
>>> So once again, do your research and buy what’s right for you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 6 Aug 2018, at 10:34 pm, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah you boath are right. I mean I like going to 96 or hell why not full 
>>>> 192 KHz if 1 can. But that's cause I'm a geek. But as I said with the 
>>>> Eltrenix 48 KHz is your typical 7.1 Blu-Ray movie. Not sure what Dolby 
>>>> Atmos disks are at, but could be 48 too. It's the 5.1 blu rays like The 
>>>> Passion of the Christ and maybe the first few Harry Potter disks that go 
>>>> all the way up to 96.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/6/2018 7:07 AM, tim cumings wrote:
>>>>> dane, I think for most recording situations. A sampling rate of 48 kHz 
>>>>> with the bit rate of 24K bps is fine.
>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 2:05 AM, André van Deventer 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But how can you turn off that proc3essing I wonder?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> André
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of Dane Trethowan
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 2:17 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality 
>>>>>> recorder
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That all said an iPhone still lacks the high bit and sampling rates that 
>>>>>> a dedicated recorder or even an Android phone can offer.
>>>>>> Last I checked the iPhone could only record up to 48KHZ, enough for 
>>>>>> voice perhaps.
>>>>>> Regarding the microphone of the iPhone not being of high quality? Well 
>>>>>> friends I have to disagree with that statement somewhat, if you can turn 
>>>>>> off all the processing on the iPhone behind the microphone then the 
>>>>>> internal microphone of the iPhone indeed does a very fair job c 
>>>>>> considering what it is.
>>>>>> Obviously external microphones can be of higher quality still.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of tim 
>>>>>> cumings
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 9:48 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality 
>>>>>> recorder
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> you can use your iPhone as a high-quality recorder.
>>>>>> I would recommend the app called recorder HQ. In terms of microphones, I 
>>>>>> would look at microphones like the scheur MV 88 and some of the road 
>>>>>> microphones that have lightning connectors.
>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:35 AM, André van Deventer 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Something I have been wondering about for some time now.  Is it 
>>>>>>> possible to use the iphone as a high quality audio recorder?
>>>>>>> Not with the internal microphone of which which is of inferior 
>>>>>>> sound quality but by connecting an external microphone?  Is 
>>>>>>> there iny kind of app available which you can use to for example 
>>>>>>> to set the recording quality?  I am not interested in video at all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> André
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> **********
>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>>> halfwits in this world behind.
>>> 
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