I've entertained the idea of getting a soundbar for the TV in my living room; 
problem is that (at least I think) since I have a satellite dish receiver 
hooked to that TV, I'd need a way to plug it into two different things!  Here's 
the thing: I get my local programming via the outside antenna.  But for the 
other stuff, there's where the satellite receiver comes in!  So if I were to 
get a soundbar, how would that work out...or would that even matter?
Keep in mind that I know next to nothing about these soundbars and how the 
operate!
Tom Kaufman

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 2:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [all-audio] Sooundbars

I’m glad we’re talking about this actually as I’m planning on a Soundbar 
purchase for later this year.
I took the opportunity of looking up “Best Soundbars of 2019” and was most 
interested to see that the Denon Heosbar rates very highly it seems.
I do have some Heos products already - the Denon AVR-X3400H, Heos 7 and Heos 1 
- so the addition of the Heosbar makes perfect sense as I already have the 
infra structure in place to drive the equipment.


> On 6 May 2019, at 1:00 pm, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> h just so ya know HDMI 1 is the 1 we are interested in here. That's the 1 
> that has ARC. But and I forget now the other name of something else Visio TVs 
> will want you to turn on as well. We delt with this because mom got a few 
> mother's days ago a smart TV.
> On 5/5/2019 10:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
> 
>> Hi, and thanks for looking. I can not find any earphone output on the front 
>> surface of the set, so if it is there, it is well hidden. The only
>> 
>> HDMI connectors I find are on the back, and the HDMI
>>  are in a line from bottom to top number 1 2 and 3.
>> take care and thanks again for all the help.
>> 
>> Curtis Delzer
>> HS
>> W B 6 H E F
>> Rialto, CA
>> 
>> On 5/5/2019 5:07 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> The optical digital output socket should be on the rear of your set.
>>> It seems there’s an analogue 3.5MM socket on the front of the set for 
>>> headphones.
>>> The manual is a little confusing so I can’t say for sure what other sockets 
>>> are on the rear of the Television apart fro at least 1 hDMI input - also on 
>>> the front -, an LAN port and the power socket.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 6 May 2019, at 9:49 am, Curtis Delzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, I gave you not quite the correct model.
>>>> 
>>>> D50X-G9
>>>> 
>>>> thanks Curtis Delzer
>>>> HS
>>>> W B 6 H E F
>>>> Rialto, CA
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/5/2019 1:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>> The Optical Digital connector looks different from other connectors.
>>>>> Its a square connector and in some cases may be covered by a flap which 
>>>>> opens when an optical connector itself is inserted, much like the old car 
>>>>> cassette players we used opened when a cassette was pushed against the 
>>>>> flap.
>>>>> The Optical out jack could also possibly take the form of a 3.5MM 
>>>>> minijack, this arrangement is used to provide both analogue and digital 
>>>>> audio out form the same jack.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6 May 2019, at 6:49 am, Curtis Delzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I found the light on the back of the TV close to the other connectors, 
>>>>>> is that the optical digital connector for audio? This is a technology I 
>>>>>> am totally not familiar with, so I wish to learn! I expect that in some 
>>>>>> ways it is kind of like Bluetooth? just speculating as to how it 
>>>>>> connects to speakers or is it somewhat like an infrared connection to 
>>>>>> remotes where any interaction with the lights . . .
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> anyway, thanks guys for your patience with me in all this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Curtis Delzer
>>>>>> HS
>>>>>> W B 6 H E F
>>>>>> Rialto, CA
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/5/2019 8:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>> So there we are, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of a TV having a HDMI 
>>>>>>> out and obviously some do however the more common standard for audio is 
>>>>>>> an optical out and at least one HDMI input, I’m willing to bet that the 
>>>>>>> tV we’re discussing has at least  and possibly more.
>>>>>>> So the idea being that the TV is connected for audio purposes to the 
>>>>>>> Soundbar or speaker system with an Optical Digital cable.
>>>>>>> That way - if required - the soundbar/speakers can get extra effects 
>>>>>>> that Digital TV now offers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6 May 2019, at 1:32 am, Howard Traxler 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We have a Sony TV that we got a little over three years ago. The 
>>>>>>>> installers gave me an HDMI cable (looks home made) with RCA male jacks 
>>>>>>>> on the other end.  I plug them into my stereo auxilary inputs and, of 
>>>>>>>> course, have window-rattling speakers on the other end..  The three 
>>>>>>>> RCA females on the TV are for input only.  Other ways of input are 
>>>>>>>> through HDMI connections.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <HT>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2019 8:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Well this is suppose to be a top-of-the-line Vizio 4k 50-inch ultra 
>>>>>>>>> smart TV, so it's connection should be top-of-the-line and conform to 
>>>>>>>>> state-of-the-art.)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Curtis Delzer
>>>>>>>>> HS
>>>>>>>>> W B 6 H E F
>>>>>>>>> Rialto, CA
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2019 4:48 PM, Matthew Chas via Groups.Io wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I have a Sony soundbar that uses digital/audio or Toslink cable.  
>>>>>>>>>> That's where most TVs and soundbars are heading these days.--Matt, 
>>>>>>>>>> N1IBB.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2019 6:06 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and as a footnote.
>>>>>>>>>>> Most Soundbars as far as I know take a digital audio feed from your 
>>>>>>>>>>> Televisions so your Television will more than likely have at least 
>>>>>>>>>>> a digital audio output.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 May 2019, at 7:36 am, Curtis Delzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks, these "sound bars," as such, the name confuses me, is it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> confined to a small area like a bar meaning length of the bar, or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> would you define it? Seems the TV has analog outputs, but they are 
>>>>>>>>>>>> RCA and don't change with the TV volume, other wise it'd be easy. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if the TV has blue tooth or not. :) thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Curtis Delzer
>>>>>>>>>>>> HS
>>>>>>>>>>>> W B 6 H E F
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rialto, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2019 11:01 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first thing you will need to do is to work out whether the TV 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a digital or analogue out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then perhaps go looking for a Soundbar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are quite cheap now and no, we???re not talking about 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> surround sound necessarily unless you really want that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I???ve seen 2.1 channel soundboards about the place which work 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The other option might be getting something like a Key Egg system 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is effectively a small bookshelf system so you could put 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> each speaker on either side of the television.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 May 2019, at 3:28 am, Curtis Delzer <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi! Last week about this time I won a 50 inch 4K ultra Vizio 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart TV, and need some speakers. We don't need surround sound 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just simple and sounding good. I think the back of the TV has 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RCA jacks for audio, but the output is not variable from them so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose there should be a remote which can be then handled by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the main remote for volume from the cable box. We have Spectrum 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out here, so the cable box now talks. So please, suggest what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you recommend I buy. My wife is getting impatient, :) (sort of) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but we wish something decent sounding which I know you guys 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THANKS and please believe me, I sort of feel in a void as to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what to look for, and where to find it. Amazon is good for us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Curtis Delzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> W B 6 H E F
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rialto, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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