HI, Agree. The LS-p4 is being praysed all over the place. Brian
-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: [email protected] <[email protected]> På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 9. september 2019 13:20 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a specific type I can’t honestly be sure but I can say that the LS-P4 is far better than the LS14 for recording quiet scenes. I think the “Look Ahead” buffer in the LS-P4 is a far better idea than that of the “Smart Level” function of the LS14. > On 9 Sep 2019, at 7:36 pm, Aidan <[email protected]> wrote: > > I mean for recording. Is it more quiet than the ls14? > > On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: >> So what aspect of sound are you referring to, playback sound? >> If so then the LS-P4 has a smaller internal speaker than the LS-14 >> and the >> LS-P4 on playback through the internal speaker sounds compressed so >> again, wise to use headphones or another speaker of some sort. >> The whole point of internal speakers to me is totally irrelevant as >> I’ve never believed portable recorders should have them anyway - and >> most of the better quality recorders don’t -, I’d rather a top >> quality speaker or no speaker at all. >> >> >>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 7:27 pm, Aidan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> The dm7 is also just as accessible as the dm4, and it seem to be >>> gone, but what I like to know, is how does the sound of the lsp4 >>> compair to the ls14? Also the auto gain. I normally like olympus >>> auto gain, but on the ls14 they didn't do a good jog there. >>> >>> On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I guess the DM initials made me think the DM720 had disappeared, I >>>> had a >>>> DM4 >>>> years ago. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 12:12 pm, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What made you think this was gone? I thought it came out along >>>>> with either the P2 or P4. I should look into the 620 either on >>>>> EBay or Amazon. More as an MP3 player than a recorder. Because my >>>>> mile stone died and I don't like how the 14 doesn't hold your >>>>> place and goes too far back or forward when you rewind or fast >>>>> forward. >>>>> >>>>> On 9/8/2019 9:33 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>> Speaking of Olympus recorders I just picked up a DM-720. >>>>>> I thought the DM-720 had long been discontinued. >>>>>> I plan to use this recorder for general dictation work and note >>>>>> taking. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 11:22 am, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah the LS-14 design is cool. I love the rubber down the sides. >>>>>>> Reminds >>>>>>> me of the Zoom H2. I haven't felt up an H2N or an H5 which I >>>>>>> recall Neal meantioning has rubber like stuff on it. In the case >>>>>>> of the 100 though I've never felt 1 up I do find that there's >>>>>>> something questionable wiht it what whith how wind gets into the >>>>>>> side. Something must not be seeled right. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/8/2019 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>>>> I don't know anything about the LS-7. >>>>>>>> I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically >>>>>>>> different than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have. >>>>>>>> In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus >>>>>>>> recorders with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet. >>>>>>>> The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and >>>>>>>> won't last too long. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Hamit Campos >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a >>>>>>>> specific type >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I >>>>>>>> kinda liked that razer look. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>>>>> Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post. >>>>>>>>> The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was >>>>>>>>> never intended to be. >>>>>>>>> If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better >>>>>>>>> off starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there. >>>>>>>>> For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can >>>>>>>>> really shine. >>>>>>>>> Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use >>>>>>>>> of an attenuation patch cord. >>>>>>>>> The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of >>>>>>>>> recording time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery. >>>>>>>>> Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more >>>>>>>>> battery power is used but battery life can be improved >>>>>>>>> significantly if you choose to record in MP3 which may be all >>>>>>>>> you need of you’re recording lectures or other voice content. >>>>>>>>> The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving >>>>>>>>> including the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of >>>>>>>>> us have no vision anyway lights are something we don’t really >>>>>>>>> need. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever >>>>>>>>>> the new thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in >>>>>>>>>> any case yeah the points you made are all true and I agree. I >>>>>>>>>> also like that zoom wide feature that even the DMs had. It >>>>>>>>>> does make the stereo panning wider on your files. I know it >>>>>>>>>> adds more floor as Neal pointed out with the P-2 but still an >>>>>>>>>> epic feature. The fact they talk makes it so symple to do >>>>>>>>>> stuff on the fly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I like many things about the LS-P4. >>>>>>>>>>> First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar. >>>>>>>>>>> Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however >>>>>>>>>>> the file listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only >>>>>>>>>>> thing. >>>>>>>>>>> The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also >>>>>>>>>>> record in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats. >>>>>>>>>>> The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of >>>>>>>>>>> the recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on. >>>>>>>>>>> The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian >>>>>>>>>>> the Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy >>>>>>>>>>> recorder to record.. well.. just about anything. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it >>>>>>>>>>>> have menus which talk, etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> THANKS! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Curtis Delzer >>>>>>>>>>>> HS >>>>>>>>>>>> K 6 V F O >>>>>>>>>>>> Rialto, CA >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are >>>>>>>>>>>>> incredibly bad, you just have to breathe on the machine to >>>>>>>>>>>>> hear the noise. >>>>>>>>>>>>> My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at >>>>>>>>>>>>> last Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the >>>>>>>>>>>>> recorder range and does everything well except for playing >>>>>>>>>>>>> back audio through the internal speabut as people know >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never judged recorders by their dreadful internal speakers >>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus >>>>>>>>>>>>> recorder with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for >>>>>>>>>>>>> the market it knows, the voice recorder and camera market. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Hamit Campos >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking >>>>>>>>>>>>> for a specific type >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt >>>>>>>>>>>>> up an >>>>>>>>>>>>> LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware >>>>>>>>>>>>> whre the wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning >>>>>>>>>>>>> and demoing this. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do >>>>>>>>>>>>> with my >>>>>>>>>>>>> H6 >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue >>>>>>>>>>>>> because for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be >>>>>>>>>>>>> a problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>> As >>>>>>>>>>>>> is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those >>>>>>>>>>>>> guys can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the >>>>>>>>>>>>> LS-14 mics can handle more wind. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has its share of problems. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don't do any outdoor field recording". >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dressed in a windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorder supposedly as good as the LS-100 is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Aidan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a specific type >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new model improved? I am worried because they seem to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have less models now and the american site is not up rite >>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. Hope they won't faid away, but even though, they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stil didn't get to the level zoom did, and its defnitly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wundering why not enough blind people use these? I mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>> half of them might not even no what fantum power is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> figured it out even if when the first 3 DS recorders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that spoke only did for what ever ease of use reason they did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to start with. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real problems are that 1 no talking so you will need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help when menu diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the PTRs or Olympus's so you'll need headphones to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know what is armed what's not and how many tracks are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> armed. But for grabbing and going meh once you've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten the menu diving and track arming out of the way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you good. I have 1 and love it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sad ain't it? That there's nothing that's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> studio grade. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't care for studio gear or don't know enough to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so? Sorry if that offends anyone but 1 does have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wander why there's no true studio grade blind friendly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gear. Remember friends who knows why the Olympus DS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care blind people used them? Who even knows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How accessible is the h6? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 or more inputs at the same time, only one at a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. Whereas the zoom h6 can, and to turn each input >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on/off, is very easy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find 1 on EBay or Amazon go for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has dual XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 3.5mm input that goes to a separate channel? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This question was inspired by the following blog post: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-wit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> h-no-mix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er-or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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