Thank you to all who have responded.  Perhaps I should have given more context 
to my questions.  In my mind, the best situation to record a meeting is when 
one can access the sound system directly as somebody mentioned.  Ideally, one 
would have their own separate microphone to mix with the input from the sound 
system to pick up questions from the audience.  If one can't access the sound 
system, attaching a small microphone directly to the stand that holds the sound 
system's microphone has often been a good strategy.  However, recent trends can 
make this kind of arrangement harder to achieve.  For one thing, often there is 
no microphone stand with a main microphone, being replaced by wireless 
microphones.  Sometimes, sound systems are all contained within a single 
cabinet along with the speaker and it may be brought into the meeting room just 
before the meeting starts.  I have found that sometimes, just placing a 
microphone on the table at which speakers are sitting can work well, but 
sometimes that arrangement picks up a good bit of room echo from the sound 
system itself.  In that situation, a cardioide pattern would probably help.  I 
have just been trying to think of other methods that might work as alternatives 
in difficult situations.  Although we would never have considered this years 
back, picking up the audio from the speaker can be a reasonably good approach 
with a good microphone and a full range speaker as somebody else suggested.  
While I am familiar with cardioide patterns, I have never had any experience 
with a shot gun type of microphone.  I understand older designs were fairly 
long and don't know if there are newer designs that might achieve some success 
with electronic noise cancelling technologies, which is the reason for my 
questions.  Clearly, if one were to use a shot gun style of microphone, one 
would have to monitor continuously, as Tim suggests.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of tim cumings
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 9:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Uni-directional Microphones

I would not recommend a figure 8 pattern if you are sitting in the 
audience and want to record the people on stage. A firugre eight 
microphone picks up equally from the front and the back of the mic, so 
it would pick up the audience as well as the people on stage. You 
probably want a pair  of cardioid or shotgun microphones.


On 9/23/2019 10:13 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> A pair of Matched SE-7s should do. I was going to ask if it had to be 
> dynamic or condencer but he says he'll be in the audiance so that 
> means he's pretty far. No not realy but I'm not sure how far dynamics 
> hear. So SE-7s would do. They're only $199 for a stereo matched pair.
>
> On 9/23/2019 6:54 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> A portable cardioid or shot-gun microphone taken by each speaker will 
>> give the best results but there is going to be some handling noise. 
>> Unless the mics are very expensive.
>>
>> The common terms are omni-directional and figure 8 polar patterns 
>> that may meet the criteria as expressed.
>>
>> The choice of microphone depends upon the quality desired and the 
>> money available. In addition to the event’s structure and location.  
>> If all participants are co-operative.
>>
>> Gena
>>> On 23 Sep 2019, at 22:09, tim cumings <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Steve.
>>> It depends what type of microphone you are talking about. If you 
>>> mean a standard cardioid microphone, that might work fairly well. If 
>>> you meansomething that is even more directional, like a shotgun 
>>> microphone, it might be difficult if there are multiple speakers on 
>>> the stage, since you would have to move the microphone back and 
>>> forth to capture the audio from all the speakers.
>>> Also in this particular situation I would advise that you use 
>>> headphones to insure you are getting the best possible recording.
>>>> On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobson 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have experience with using a uni-directional 
>>>> microphone to record a presenter at a meeting from the audience?  I 
>>>> know there are directional microphones that work well to allow a 
>>>> speaker to be picked up at a close range while suppressing 
>>>> feedback, for example, but I am interested in being able to better 
>>>> pick up a speaker from, say, the first row in the audience.  Any 
>>>> thoughts on what degree this is practical would also be of interest.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Gena
>>
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>>
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