Hello Hamit,

It sounds like he as achieved what you want to do. If it was me I would try to 
get an even sound stage. Andy’s recording has a hole in the middle to my ears.

Regards,
> On 12 May 2020, at 22:56, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Andy with youtube well assuming and sorry if I forgot assuming you can post 
> live links in your message just go back to said video you wanted to shair, if 
> using google chrome hit F6 grabb that adress by cutting it than paste it into 
> your email. No need for a folder. Now this right angle clip mic. Which 1 do u 
> mean? There's the 1 with the 2 barrel capsels you can turn. This is the XY 
> snap off. there's also a ball. This is the mid side mic set up. But assuming 
> you meant the XY setup, what didn't you like about them? They're nice. Sure 
> they aren't studio mics. But nice and crisp. Role them backwards towards you 
> and they are at 120 degrees XY.
> 
> On 5/12/2020 5:44 PM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
>> Hi Georgina.
>> 
>> There is a double space halfway down my message to the list.  In there was 
>> supposed to be a Sendspace link to a very recent recording of the Dawn 
>> Chorus from my garden.  On looking again to my message I see that the 
>> Sendspace link is missing.
>> 
>> I was hoping to let you all heare my Zoom H6 with the right angle clip on 
>> microphone recording the dozens of birds I have in my garden, but I suppose 
>> that I forgot to paste it in there.
>> 
>> Another member had today asked me to give here the Youtube link as she 
>> didn't have a Senspace account.  Unfortunately, I don't have a Youtube 
>> folder so could'nt help her out.
>> 
>> Thats a great pity as I'd have loved for you all  to listen  and tell me 
>> what is wrong with my recording.
>> 
>> Very best wishes.
>> 
>> Andy.
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Andy,
>> 
>> When you ask to guess, what are you asking? What is it you don’t like about 
>> it?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>> On 12 May 2020, at 18:33, Andy via groups.io 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> Getting more confused as the day goes on.
>>> 
>>> The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's 
>>> just the way I am.  Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, but 
>>> just about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree of width,
>>> 
>>> I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see the 
>>> attraction if making a collection  of birds inone country or area.
>>> 
>>> Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone with 
>>> a wide spread.
>>> 
>>> For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, recorded 
>>> at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on right angle 
>>> microphone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can you guess what is wrong with my  recording?
>>> 
>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos
>>> 
>>> I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio Microphone 
>>> with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet above the 
>>> River Clyde, so is rather windy.  -  What do they use in Texas???
>>> 
>>> Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps  I should look 
>>> at the NT4.  So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube .
>>> 
>>> It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a good 
>>> podcasting microphone, for a  home studio computer.
>>> 
>>> So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more 
>>> consideration.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to Record 
>>> Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided earlier today 
>>> by Gena.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Very best wishes.
>>> 
>>> Andy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> for -----
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello John,
>>> 
>>> Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun 
>>> might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or 
>>> those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a 
>>> heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If 
>>> Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional 
>>> microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of 
>>> course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something 
>>> else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is 
>>> for him to decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size 
>>> stage does Andy want?
>>> 
>>> There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the 
>>> microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an 
>>>> individual bird song  sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn 
>>>> Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit 
>>>> suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.
>>>> 
>>>> PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a 
>>>> big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they 
>>>> tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so 
>>>> possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. 
>>>> You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden 
>>>> or an estate for that very reason. 😉
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
>>>> Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>>>> 
>>>> Hello John,
>>>> 
>>>> They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering 
>>>> down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post 
>>>> caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want 
>>>> ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he 
>>>> lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found 
>>>> that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even 
>>>> professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being 
>>>>> off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would 
>>>>> be the best for ambient recordings.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Georgina 
>>>>> Joyce
>>>>> Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Andy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth 
>>>>> Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser 
>>>>> MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the 
>>>>> MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my 
>>>>> mic of choice. I think that would really do the job.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have 
>>>>>> are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue 
>>>>>> as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat 
>>>>>> windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR 
>>>>>> plugs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can anyone please give me some advice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up.  I think I've changed an inportant 
>>>>>> option within the menues.  I tried recording bird calls and the 
>>>>>> recording was extremely poor.  Is there perhaps a function within the H6 
>>>>>> that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution 
>>>>>> silence to get very nice recordings.  If so I'd love to here some 
>>>>>> samples.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andy Logue from Scotland.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gena
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

Gena

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