I believe these warnings are to prevent damage that might occur by plugging
the  8022 in while the power is on.  This is the case for any condenser.  My
guess is that it works fine on phantom power without the battery and in fact
if you look closely at the spec sheet there may be a separate set of specs
for phantom power operation and they may be augmented.


Speaking of the H6 I would greatly appreciate it if someone  could send us
their notes on how  to make various changes  in the menu based parameters.
There is a lot that can be accomplished by just counding the number of
clicks and its crazy that each of us with an H6 has to figure it out
independently with sighted help and make our own notes.

Thanks
Frank



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 6:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] a couple of questions re at8022 and at4022


Hi Andy and Gena. Just to clarify a few things. Andy the 4022 is a 
completely different mike from the 2 we're discussing here. I'm sure you 
ment 2022 and typed 4 by axident. But the 4022 is the omni brother of 
the 4021 which is what the 8022 is based on. Now to the subject at hand. 
Yes the 2022 is battery operated only thus phantum indeed could damage 
it. As for the AT-8022 it came with a double A I'm sure Andy. You don't 
necessarily need phantom for the 8022 if you didn't want it. Sure if you 
are using it with XLRs it's best to do so to get the full beniphat of 
the mic. But also this mic comes with a mini XLR to 3.5 jack cable. This 
Andy is so you could use it with the DS-50 or something like that. But 
it is mainly for using the 8022 with a camera. You can mount the 8022 on 
a DSLR camera. As you can the H6. There ya go just wanted to clear 
things up. Andy just sent you a seperate message on how to turn phantom 
on and how to link the tracks. Note the XLRs that go into the H6 are 
different collors. Have your wife figure out which collor is which 
channal. I forget right now. I will say this though left goes towards 
the front of the H6 meaning in the XLR near where you snap on the snap 
off mics and in this case the right goes into the XLR near the menu 
levor. Just so as you know same applys to the left XLRs. Track 1 left 
channal is the XLR near the opening for the snap offs and the XLR near 
in that case to the card reader is Track 2 or right channal. I'd really 
love to hear the 8022 on the F8N though to see what it sounds like on 
truely pro gear.

On 7/30/2020 8:58 AM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
> Hi again Gena.
>
> Yes Gena.
>
> I've bought a pair of at 8022's and an AT 2022.
>
> Incidentally, a Youtube demo warns that never should the AT2022 be 
> plugged into an XLr with Phantom turned on or the mic will be killed.  
> The 2022 has it's own power in the form of a 1.5 Duracell battery.
>
> The AT 8022 does require Phantom so these XLR's should be supplied 
> with power., but how much power?
>
> Very best wishes.
>
> Andy.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] a couple of questions re at8022 and at4022
>
>
> Hello Andy,
>
> Yes, they are indeed condenser mics so need power. Did you say you got 
> new ones?
>
> Regards,
>
> Gena
>> On 30 Jul 2020, at 10:32, Andy via groups.io 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Hamit and all.
>>
>> Just a couple of questions guys regarding the at 8022 and  the at 4022.
>>
>> I've taken Hamit's advice regarding his view that 2 at8022's placed  
>> apart in an x y form will give me a broader stereo field rather then 
>> 1 microphone.
>>
>> I decided this because when recording my local  7 piece  band the 
>> sound source is quite wide.
>>
>> So I've a lovely new pair of these.
>>
>> Now am I correct in thinking that these mics require Phantom power?
>>
>> If so, dealing with the H6 first, I could allocate channels and 4 for 
>> these micks and turn Phantom power on?
>>
>> In terms of channels 1 and 2, I turn Phantom power off completely as 
>> I'm intending to allocate these channels to my new at 2022, which 
>> should arrive next week
>>
>> These will satisfy  my Dawn Chorus birdcall recordings.
>>
>> I need to set up the H6, not even going near the F8N until I've 
>> sorted out the H6.
>>
>> Any advice would be very helpful.
>>
>> As my sighted wife will be following your suggestions, it would be 
>> nice for an idiots guide because she has absolutely no interest in 
>> recording.
>>
>>
>> Hoping everyone is fine and looking after themselves.
>>
>> Very best wishes.
>>
>> Andy.
>>
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