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User docpi changed the following:

                  What    |Old value                 |New value
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                    Status|CLOSED                    |UNCONFIRMED
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                Resolution|WONTFIX                   |
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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 14 04:37:48 -0800 
2005 -------
[factual reply
and suggestion/request for upgrading from CLOSED-WONTFIX to at least FEATURE
REQUEST]

Is that so? Why then is a single time value which is not embedded into a formula
correctly preserved as a time value within the cell? And you can still work with
it properly, even across references.

The decimal conversion and deliberate rounding of values within entered formulae
where it is not absolutely necessary is highly unacceptable for a product which
will be used in a productive office environment (and sometimes even
inappropriately in mission critical environments. But blame human behavior for
that, not OOo.)

This is an opportunity for OOo to excel (pun intended) in reliability and
accuracy where others badly fail.

At least introduce a filter or additional abstract layer which preserves the
originally entered formula for reference and editing, like the user provided and
intended it, perhaps in a separate and prioritized data structure and only
evaluate it to decimal value upon display or user evaluation request or export
of the sheet into non-OOo formats.
This would allow for innovation while not breaking the apparently so highly
important adherence to bad habits of (still) inferior applications.

In the case at hand that lead to the filing of this problem (it is not an issue,
but that is a discussion to be held somewhere else), my original intention was
to evaluate the time spent for one action item within a larger assignment. There
is one column reserved for time in a matrix of action items. The result of the
addition of separate amounts of time within this cell need to be human
reviewable, so I (and my contractors) can see and edit how much time I spent in
how many distinct sessions working on a specific action item. The conversion to
decimals makes a quick, yet exact review impossible for the human eye. Where the
fundamental purpose of the application is to serve the user, it here fails.

And we are all for usability, are we not?

The ability to freely and intutively work with an application is a great
incentive in using it. This is an excellent and easy opportunity to make it 
happen.


[highly necessary rant and LAR]

There is a reason why I use OpenOffice.org and not Excel.

The attitude involved in the premature closing of this "issue" is not going to
make OOo better than Excel and is thus unacceptable. The consequence of
following a bad role model is that of ending up in the same dead end.

There will be no reason to switch over to OOo if the products become
indistinguishable. People need reasons to bother, not reasons for feeling
pampered. By pampering to bad habits and simply wrong and inappropriate
application behavior , you would attract the wrong people who would only pull
OOo down.

You do not want those. You should not bow and bend to them.
Not for what OOo stands for.


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