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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Oct 28 03:47:36 +0000 2007 ------- I'm very sad to see that this feature is not receiving the attention that it deserves. There is a HUGE falacy of composition in the threads/arguments above. The argument runs something like this -- because styles are styles, therefore all understanding of the code that frames the layout and changes the format is useless. Styles are styles. They are a great convenience, but they have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the justification of Reveal Codes as a valuable feature. Neither one can act as a substitute for, or reason for the extermination of, the other. They are unrelated featers. (The efficiency and long-lasting impacts of the Madison Avenue brainwashing job that MS underwrote for competition purposes, to trick people into believing that because theiz have "da Styles" dherefores theiz dussunt need "da Codes," when the two features are totally unrelated, still amazes me.) A coder writing php and html gets to see his code (doh!). Why does he need to see his code -- he is writing for one of the most forgiving of display-delivery devices, the monitor. An author using Writer is preparing to send a high precision document to a high precision printer, which is by comparison several orders of magnitude less forgiving than a monitor. Imagine an author using a TeX editor (TeX uses styles!) but his TeX editor refuses to allow him to see the codes which control the layout of his or her document. Two authors, one using MS Word and the other using a TeX variant, are sending their documents to similar printers, and both should have equal access to the layout structure for their documents. One cannot proofread a precise document and rely on "styles" and a WYTYSINWYG monitor. Having sexy styles, or not having sexy styles, will not change that. **Nor will Reveal Codes -- until the inevitalbe problems show up. When there are problems with a PRECISION document (not a Post-It note) at the printing phase, Reveal Codes is the only feature that will help cure the problem. That's part of the learning curve, and that when the author realizes that having access to Reveal Codes helps him or her keep the problems out of the code in the first place, so my sentense at ** above was an intentional lie. Reveal Codes flattens the learning curve and that increases the precision and control. IMHO, Writer should be not be marketed as, or known as, a "Post-It Note" scribbler like MS Word. (And that is just exactly what Word is, with its 10,000 styles and its totally blindfolded authors.) Marketing staff for OpenOffice should "shape" the ooWriter produce so that it develops a reputation as a **precision document** program -- a program that offers the author precise qand full control over placement of all format changes and layout changes. Thus, when an author needs more control than offered by a "Styles-and-Blindfolds" product like MS Word, but doesn't want the learning curve and hassles of TeX, then in the marketplace, then the first product that springs into their minds should be ooWriter. "ooWriter ... the powers of TeX, without the hassles ..." (Of course, everyone realizes that power, without control, is just plain dangerous, wasteful and stupid.) That will require that programmers understand that Styles and Reveal Codes are completely unrelated features. (If they are related, they are only in the sense that each feature augments the powers of the other feature.) And yes, TeX uses styles. But, just because TeX has styles, it's programmers understood MS-BS was not sufficient reason to then hide the code. OpenOffice Writer ... the powers of TeX without the hassles ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
