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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul  2 00:22:00 +0000 
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This follows issue 91199, since closed as a duplicate of this one (84774) which 
I hadn't found in a keyword search. Issue 84774 is similar but differences 
exist, and I was asked for an attachment, which I'll try to supply here, if I 
can figure out how in time. This response is partly in light of comments within 
91199.

Most users of a word processor opening a document will expect it to open in the 
word processor. That's not an enhancement. The violation of the normal 
expectation is a failure, thus a defect.

I've now seen the priority-setting information. Thank you. I accept the 
correction.

Here are the steps for opening Text-Encoded-test.txt in read/write mode:

Writer > File > Open > select file. The unlabeled drop-down list for which the 
tooltip says "Select which types of files are shown" already reads "All files". 
Click Open. Result: Text Import dialog. Set Character set to Western Europe 
(ISO-8859-1) (which I used for document creation) instead of default Unicode 
(UTF-8). Click OK. Calc opens with the document. Not good.

Writer > File > Open > select file. Change the unlabeled drop-down list for 
which the tooltip says "Select which types of files are shown" to Text Encoded. 
Click Open. ASCII Filter Options dialog already shows proper charset 8859-1 and 
proper paragraph break CR & LF (I used 8859-1 for document creation and prefer 
CR&LF). Click OK. Writer opens the document. That's good.

Writer > File > Open > select file. Select File type > Text documents. Leave 
the unlabeled drop-down list for which the tooltip says "Select which types of 
files are shown" at "All files". File type > Text documents (which includes 
txt). Click Open. Result: Text Import dialog. Set Character set to Western 
Europe (ISO-8859-1) (which I used for document creation) instead of default 
Unicode (UTF-8). Click OK. Calc opens with the document. Not good.

Writer > File > Open > select file. Select File type > Text documents. Leave 
the unlabeled drop-down list for which the tooltip says "Select which types of 
files are shown" at "All files". File type > Text Encoded. Click Open. ASCII 
Filter Options dialog already shows proper charset 8859-1 and proper paragraph 
break CR & LF (I used 8859-1 for document creation and prefer CR&LF). Click OK. 
Writer opens with the document. That's good.

How I made the file: Writer > File > New > Text Document. Enter text. File > 
Save As > File type > Text Encoded; enter Name; checkmark Edit filter settings; 
click Save button. Message on format or content incompatility. Click Yes. ASCII 
Filter Options dialog already shows proper charset 8859-1 and proper paragraph 
break CR & LF (I prefer 8859-1 and CR&LF). Click OK.

The file extension is that added automatically by OOo, namely, .txt. That's 
good, since I also open, edit, and save the same file on Win machines and back 
again in OOo.

When opening files, counterintuitivity occurs when the dialog proposes to open 
all the files when it perhaps won't open any. It occurs again when file type's 
pick list has text documents long before text encoded, leading us to apply the 
former.

I understand the problem of Writer being told to open a file but not knowing 
what type it is. But the solution is not to hand it off to Calc. Rather, 
perhaps add a dialog after the file-open dialog has been clicked to Open when 
All files has been selected and ask the user to reconsider, and state at that 
point that All files and nothing in the picklist is too general, so users 
change something rather than watch Calc take over and turn a memo into a 
spreadsheet and not know what to do. This is a usability defect.

Version 2.4 just came out, and downloading and upgrading, in my recent 
experience, take time. I imagine you already know if this fault has been fixed, 
but since a search told me nothing about the issue, I doubt it was fixed for 
2.4.1.

Thanks.

-- 
Nick

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