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------- Additional comments from [email protected] Sun May 24 14:02:35 
+0000 2009 -------
Hi alcohenma,

I have never, and would never, enforce a "I think this is better for you"
policy. I am simply putting forward an alternative to Excel. Excel has already
proved to be the winner, but, in my opinion, through top notch marketing and
(allegedly) underhand practices. Again in my opinion, it was never the best.

Your really cannot use the term "wrong mathematical results" when referring to
performing a mathematical calculation on a cell which has been deliberately
entered as a "text item". It is true that the result will be different, but by
no stretch of the imagination can it be "wrong". Imagine your bank balance if
you add in the Account Number to the total. Pay off your insurance premium, but
don't add in the Policy Number before you pay it.

As to "impossible to catch", check out the facilities in Openoffice for Value
Highlighting and Mark Invalid Data.

Hi kkeane,

I think that we actually have all of this; OpenOffice with the "improvements"
and reading tolerably well Excel files. Go-oo without the "improvements", also
reading Excel files to a reasonable extent, and Excel.

To restate my point:

1)  I do not want formulae to fail because there is a text string in one of the
dependant cells (OpenOffice 1 Excel 0)

2)  I do not want  my bank account number added into a column of figures, even
if I have (correctly) formatted it as text. (OpenOffice 2 Excel 1) Yes, Excel
does not work the way you want with the SUM() formula! so:

3)  I do want the result of calculations to be consistent, whichever formula I
choose to use. In an example spreadsheet OpenOffice got the answer the same in 8
cases, 2 resulted in ERR:502 and 2 were different. The same sheet in Excel
produced the same result in 6 cases, 4 resulted in #VALUE and again 2 were
different. The example was worked using simple SUM(), +A1+A2 and VLOOKUP()
formulae on a range of cells, including the most common user input errors. On a
more complex calculation including a VLOOKUP() formula which returns a blank
cell if no entry is found, Excel refused to give an answer for both
SUM(+A1,-A2...) and +A1-A2... whereas OpenOffice gave the "correct" answer in
both cases.

Moving on to a previous point, can you explain why Excel included a Transition
Formula Evaluation option if it is never needed?

Personally I thought the latter was a good option. Add an option which allows
the user to treat text as numbers wherever possible. The suggestion was
rubbished by the developers when I posted it.

One final thought, how do users input numbers into a spreadsheet, format them as
text, and then align them right without realising it?

Ah well.

Andrew




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