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What |Old value |New value
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Issue type|DEFECT |ENHANCEMENT
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Target milestone|--- |OOo 3.x
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------- Additional comments from [email protected] Fri Feb 4 09:39:08 +0000
2011 -------
I understand that this is perceived as a bug from a user who does not use the
style concept. I agree that we should by default paste a 'visual 1:1 copy'.
Changing the default is not that easy. This would then be perceived as a bug
from a user who wants to work with styles and templates.
Also a history lesson from the early 90's, StarOffice 3.0 did actually made a
visual 1:1 copy by also copy the master page. We then got complains from
customers who's files grow larger and larger because they tend to use the same
document always pasting and deleting slides so the list of unused master pages
grow and grow.
Since unused master pages must be deleted manually this could become an issue
again for users who are not familiar with the styles/master page concept.
(The 'obvious' solution "just delete all unused master pages automatically" does
break the work with template documents so is no option.)
So we have two options. Option one, do not copy the master page with the slide
and put all style formating as hard formating to the shapes. This would still
not be a 1:1 copy as the background and optional shapes from the master page
would be missing. Also hard formating everything does not produce manageable
documents.
Option two is to copy the master page with the slide. Here lies another caveat.
We would have to detect if the same master page is already present in the target
document. Since 99% of the master page names will be "Default", we would have to
compare the content of the master pages, including styles. This is a lot of
development work to do if we want to do this fast enough without annoying the
user. If we do not have a proper detection of identical master pages each drag
and drop would create a new master page. This is to be avoided at all cost.
If the above problems are solved and we change the default, we should have a non
intrusive way (meaning no message box appearing for every paste/drop) that the
user can later decide not to have a 1:1 copy since he want to work with his own
template/master page. Something along the ms smart tags.
As a summary, yes I agree that we have to do something here but it is not a
simple fix and for some problems I do not have a proper idea yet how to fix
them. This would all be much easier if we just drop the concept of styles in
OOo. MS does not have them which makes their life so much easier. But for many
users the availability of styles in OOo is a huge competitive advantage so I
can't just take them out :-(
I put this issue on enhancement since stuff has to be implemented to make the
current behavior not appearing as a bug. This does not influence the time frame
in which this issue will be fixed or not.
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