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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 8 08:23:41 -0700 2005 ------- It's senseful to reduce the amount of Issues by marking them as duplicates and closing them. But in this case you do know the difference between this issue and issue 33307: We want to keep the opening behaviour of OOo 1.x (the checkbox may be checked off as standard), a shortcut would be a workaround - if it would work by now! So it is *not* a duplicate. If you would have closed it with the real reason, there would be much less complaint (probably we would have to open a new issue as "feature request"). In my eyes the real reason is something like that (it's just a suggestion, but I'ld like to know if I did understand you): 1) There have been complaints about the old opening behaviour by readers of writer-documents (ACK) 2) Turning off the checkbox as standard solution disables the feature in calc-, impress- and base-documents as well. The reader of the writer-document wants to open the other document types where he has left them. (Otherwise he wouldn't have a problem with unchecking the option - I think, he would open the other documents at the beginning without many complaints) 3) People writing longer documents know better than the "readers" how to move to the point where they want to start. So it's more senseful to ask them to use a shortcut than the others. (ACK) 4) The implementation of the shortcut has been too complex to include in 2.0 (refer to #33307), but the "readers" must have their optimal behaviour (starting writer documents at the start, others at other positions) in 2.0. (Do you worry about loosing new users? - the power-users wouldn't go to MSO anyway!) Closing the issue with these reasons could be understood (without agreeing to), but closing as duplicate is wrong IMHO. Just two more points to discuss: 1) The point of starting template-based documents is a new one. Here "simple" standard-user could have an advantage of the old behaviour, but by now we don't know how often it is used. 2) While it is clear, that the shortcut can't be implemented in 2.0 final, it should be the better compromise to go back to the old behaviour with turning off the checkbox as standard. I assume that the "simple" standard-reader doesn't mention the problem that calc-, impress- and base-documents (if he uses them at all) open at the beginning. For all the people using writer with longer documents there must be a possibility to begin where they stopped at the last session (without bookmarking every time before saving...) I don't see why the standard-reader can't open all documents at the beginning - or decide to open all (including writer) at the last edited position and check the option. Who is able to check an option is able to uncheck it as well (or use an *existing* shortcut for temporary movement to the beginning). Perhaps there is a reason I don't have in mind - please let me know! Bernhard --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
