Very exciting to see this finally out there.  We definitely should see if we can
bring some of this back into Allura proper.

I'd be happy to have extensions in the main Allura codebase if they are in
pretty good shape, so that it's easier to keep them maintained and in working
order.  Beyond that, I've been listing external extensions at
https://forge-allura.apache.org/p/allura/wiki/Extensions/ but over time I'm sure
there's more we can do to support that.

Can you elaborate on the proposal you mentioned?  Is it a grant proposal?  With
the goal being to get funding to do the work necessary to work through the
technical & legal work to merge these results into Apache Allura?

-Dave

On 10/10/13 3:04 PM, Nicholas Bollweg wrote:
> The Georgia Tech prototype is an "install on top" set of Tools, etc. that
> was last known to work with allura_20120717 that hasn't been touched since.
> Among the things we integrated are an XMPP server (ejabberd), a graph store
> (virtuoso), and a CAD kernel (openCAScade) but I don't have a dependency
> graph handy as to which of the tools needs them. We also did some work with
> getting Allura running on OpenShift, but ran into user quota issues that
> may or may not have been resolved since.
> 
> The Vanderbilt prototype is a hard fork from, say, December of 2011, is
> distributed as a tarball (instead of a repo), has rewritten significant
> chunks of the code, and may expect parts of OpenStack to be available. I
> haven't looked over it in earnest for a long time, so it would be a bit of
> archeology indeed.
> 
> On the whole I am pretty optimistic that things actually related to
> software development would be pretty easily portable, so maybe it would be
> worth looking at them on a tool-by-tool basis. Was there any
> progress/decision as to what the extension community would look like in the
> post-Apache era? Perhaps the right approach for the bulk of the code is as
> standalone Tool projects?
> 
> Cheers,
> Nick
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Wayne Witzel III <wwitz...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Hey Nick, this is great.
>>
>> Curious, have you guys been keeping things pretty up-to-date with master?
>> How hard do you think the merging could be to get these changes and
>> features back in to the Allura upstream.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Witzel III (@wwitzel3)
>> wa...@pieceofpy.com
>> http://pieceofpy.com
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 10, 2013 at 11:18 , Nicholas Bollweg wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks:
>>> I've been kind of quiet on the line for a good long time, but had the
>>> opportunity to do some work back in 2011-12 on a custom Allura, which has
>>> now been released, along with a raft of other interesting things:
>>> http://cps-vo.org/group/avm
>>>
>>> Here are the files themselves most related to Allura (under "Georgia
>> Tech"
>>> and "Vanderbilt University"):
>>> http://cps-vo.org/node/5837/browser
>>>
>>> Between the both of these, there is some interesting stuff:
>>> - 3D CAD viewer... the multiuser part has a non-free dependency
>>> - twitter-like thing
>>> - VCS hooks (two different implementations!)
>>> - theming stuff (some of which was already extracted out and is in Apache
>>> Allura)
>>> - project metadata search
>>> - various model integrations
>>>
>>> One of the suites received funding beyond the date of what is posted
>> there,
>>> so there may be updates to come. The license situation is tricky, as
>>> nominally everything is MITish, but I doubt/know the code is well
>> audited,
>>> but I happen to know some of authors, and I am sure we can figure
>> something
>>> out :)
>>>
>>> I would love to see as much as is relevant make it back into the
>> upstream.
>>>
>>> According to the timestamps, this happened a while back, but I've been
>> off
>>> doing other things, and it was only recently brought to my attention...
>>> basically I was a bit gunshy of just pushing my code out until the
>> sponsor
>>> distributed it... government contracting around free software is funny.
>>>
>>> Additionally, there is a current effort to transition these technologies
>>> into "commercial tools," which does not preclude open source projects
>> under
>>> any definition I've ever heard, as long as somebody is getting paid:
>>>
>> https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=09ca3c2daa2d854bbb6de7171cdc7f2e&tab=core&_cview=1
>>>
>>> I would be interested in whether the community (either as we are, or as a
>>> more formal partnership between companies and individuals that
>> contribute)
>>> would be interested in putting together a proposal (9-14pg, deadline: 4pm
>>> Thursday, 31 Oct) to transition any of the technology created by these
>>> previous efforts into Apache Allura proper.
>>>
>>> I hope something of interest can come of this!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 



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