Bob, You may be working too hard.  For many years, I've used a carbide [Boy 
Scout-knife-sized] whetstone for seed of Astragalus/Oxytropis.  The stone is 
fine grained, so the seeds lay flat and don't shoot off when touched. I merely 
push them the length of the stone, 3-5 at a time, then plant.  They always come 
up in the seed pot ... but get eaten by Oregon slugs before they're past the 
2-leaf stage... still don't have any American spp in the garden. 



This method of scarification is slick, fast, and works.  Of course if you're 
scarifying astragalus seed by the pound , I can see it's being boring. In that 
case, put the seed in a can with some sand, go to a bluegrass bar, and play 
some percussion with the band.. 



loren russell 

corvallis, oregon 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "penstemon" <[email protected]> 
To: "the Electronic Rock Garden Society Alpine-L; postings copyright by 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2011 12:49:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Cacti from Seed, and hardiness 



. 
Speaking of cactus from seed, I have to say that there are few activities more 
boring than scarifying seed with sandpaper. I was doing this just the other 
evening, with nutlets of Arctostaphylos pungens, and realized that almost 
anything would be more interesting than this, and believe me, I experience 
every second of winter as though it were an hour.  I stopped, sowed all the 
seed, let it imbibe indoors for a couple of days, then put it outside to let 
winter do its thing.   


Bob Nold 
Denver, Colorado, USA 


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