Sorry, I forgot to remove the germination part of the subject line last
time..
Thanks, Jane, I really like some of those wild colours.
The only species that is in my immediate area according to maps in Flora of
Alberta.The caveats are: the maps are tiny dots representing the confirmed
reports of each species- hard to be sure where some of those dots really
are when the whole province is one inch high- unless you had seen the
actual lists of locations, you'd probably get to know the patterns. My
immediate are is all private land- farming/grazing of varying intensity
(from intense to zero on various pieces of land) so we have a good
representation of native plants, but I wonder how much official botanising
has actually been done right around here-probably more so in gov't land in
the foothills to the west, and along several river valleys- 30-60 km away
one way or another, so I have found a number of species that don't appear
right here on the map, but do show in locations that might be 30-60 or more
km away in various directions.
*So*, C lutescens appears some distance ( I have not knowingly seen any of
the other species to be able to recognise them) to the south-east- which
presumably is into a more aspen-parkland/grassland zone, C occidentalis is
off to the west in the foothills or mountains,  C rhexifolia also off to
the west, seemingly a bit farther yet into the mountains. No mention of
sulphurea except that occidentalis (which is said to intergrade with
rhexifolia) at lower elevations is treated as sulphurea, though 'in our
area they intergrade completely' not sure if that means sulphurea
intergrades completely with occidentalis or if they mean one of these
intergrades with rhexifolia...
In any case, I think lutescens and occidentalis would be the*
likeliest *players
besides miniata, but I haven't yet studied the characters I'd need to
distinguish them beyond obvious bract colours...
Cohan
West Central Alberta, Canada, Zone 2-3
record temps from 10-20 miles away:  min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F
http://picasaweb.google.com/cactuscactus

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 3:26 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote:

> Cohan,
>
> Very nice Castilleja photos.  Some of those bicolored specimens are a work
> of art!
>
> In looking at the various combinations of cream, pink, rose and red in
> individual plants, I was reminded of the hybridization between C. sulphurea
> and C. rhexifolia.  Do you have C. rhexifolia growing nearby?
>
> Jane Hendrix
> Mountain View Experimental Gardens
> Peak 7 Area - Breckenridge, Colorado USA
> Elevation: 10,000 feet
> USDA Zone: 4
> Website:  http://www.picturetrail.com/hendrix
>
>
>
>
> Since we are on Castilleja.....
>
> I have several populations �in my area of beautiful mixed colour plants,
> the exact origins of which I have not yet determined- only miniata appears
> in my area on maps, but I think my area is not well surveyed,is a bit of a
> border area between several biomes, and things creep in from species that
> are not officially recorded here. The plants in the populations range from
> near white to creamy pale yellows, �through salmon to scarlet, with an
> occasional almost true red, but not true pinks nor anything purply, and
> many bi or tri-coloured 'flowers' in various combinations of the above..
> its been suggested they are likely hybrids between miniata and something
> else, but the 'something else' does not occur here by itself as far as I
> have seen (not the final word on populations, and maybe the other species
> is right there and I don't recognise it! There are sites with only scarlet
> and salmon miniata types, but no sites with only the cream coloured plants)
> so I presume the cross occurred elsewhere (likely in the foothills where
> other species are recorded) and the plants moved down here as hybrids, or
> perhaps, another species used to exist around here and does not now...
> Here is one of the populations; the comments were written before I was
> told by someone much more knowledgeable than I, on Flickr, that they are
> likely hybrids, though he had not had a chance to really examine them
> closely yet; fewer mixed colour plants than the other population, but some
> very tall plants, some up to nearly a metre.
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111492944361897930115/July102011Castilleja
>
> This is the original population I'd seen, several miles as the crow flies
> from the one above, farther by road; I showed pics from this site before,
> but this is a different year/album
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111492944361897930115/July072010ThunderAndPaintbrushes
> �
> Here is the album I would have shared a couple of years ago, with some of
> the best mixed colour plants..
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111492944361897930115/Castilleja2009�
>
> You can get some sense of the habitat from the albums-- both are in
> roadside ditches, ranging from moist areas in the ditch bottom (though
> absent from the wettest spots) up the banks to medium and some dryish
> spots, depending on the year... and ranging from full sun spots to morning
> or afternoon sun only and into open aspen stands.. At both sites they
> extend quite some distance along the ditch- at least a quarter mile at one
> site, and probably nearer a mile at the other, and to varying extents on
> both sides of the gravel road.They grow with many other species from
> grasses and invasive forage plants like clover and sweet clover to native
> Geranium richardsonii, Anemone canadensis (at one of the sites only, and
> ranging a bit more to the lower, damper end of the site, with Castilleja
> mostly at the other), various native asters and other compositae, Lilium
> philadelphicum, wild rose and other shrubs, Vicia, Lathyrus, etc etc....�
> Here's an album showing some companions at the first site shown above- (I
> haven't got these labelled yet! Lets see-- Achillea, Arnica, Erigeron,
> Campanula, Hieracium? Galium)
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111492944361897930115/July102011BesideThePaintbrushes
> �.
> I have sent seed to Gardens North from the original site in 2009, and both
> sites in 2010; I did not get seed sent this year, but still have some from
> the second site... I have not yet tried sowing any- but knowing now they
> don't need a host in the seed pot, I probably will!
> Cohan
>
>
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