Sorry for the lack of signature. Brian and Jane are right. I am in Sherwood Oregon and I have signed this.
Cyclamen: I measured one of my plants of C. hederifolium. The foliage spread is about 14", 35 cm. I poked around and the tuber seems to be about 10", 25.5 cm in diameter. I have not counted the flowers, sorry. The tubers from Smith Garden would have required a larger squat pot. It has been 20 years so memory is poor. They are practically a weed in some areas of both our garden and Smith Garden but the type of weed I like! We also grow C. coum and a nice pewter leafed form of hederifolium from Kath Dryden. I am willing to send David photos but I need an email address and a size of the photos. I don't have photos of the tubers, just the foliage. Pleione: I sold most of the collection in about 2004. I did keep a selection. Sorry to say that the collection was destroyed within the next 3 years. I did some hybridizing and kept several of those. I crossed two forms of P. grandaflora, a yellow lip and a yellow tube, and have those. Nothing notable but all nice. I also crossed two color forms of P.X barbara. At the time there was some controversy about the status of this. A color form of P. grandaflora or a hybrid. I though that if it was a hybrid and I crossed the two forms I should get a wide variation in the seedlings. I didn't. Brian said that he had pseudobulbs that were too large to fit in an egg cup. That is BIG. We have egg cups some place but I couldn't find them so I measured the pseudobulbs. A number are about 2.75", 7 cm tall and 1.5", 4 cm in diameter. That would fit in an egg cup but they are pretty big. It has been some time since I looked at Alpine-l as it was going to my 'junk' address. I did change that a few months ago. I should probably change to individual messages rather than digest.I like digest on the Yahoo groups as it groups messages by thread. Hope everyone survived the holiday season, Dick 'Red' Cavender, Red's Rhodies, Sherwood, Oregon, USA, Zone 8 [email protected]
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