Well said, Brian!  I will use this to explain better to visitors to the E.H. 
Lohbrunner Alpine Garden in Vancouver, BC.
While it’s essentially at sea level, the scale of the garden allows many large 
plants to be grown, including those which
look good in association with its large rocks!

Brent Hine
Curator, UBC Botanical Garden
Vancouver, BC

From: alpine-l-boun...@science.uu.nl [mailto:alpine-l-boun...@science.uu.nl] On 
Behalf Of Brian Whyer
Sent: August-01-15 2:09 AM
To: Ray Deutsch; Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society; postings 
copyright by authors.
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener 
e-magazine

I quote, from an AGS publication.

Definitions “Alpine or rock garden plant”: The term covers all plants, 
including shrubs, suitable for
cultivation in a rock garden of moderate size or in an unheated frame or alpine 
house. It excludes any plants
which will not survive an average British winter under such conditions but 
includes many plants which
do not necessarily grow in mountainous regions.

Many "alpines" grow at sea level, Dryas octopetala for instance in Scotland, 
and several orchids in "alpine meadows and woodlands" in europe.

Brian Whyer, UK


________________________________
From: Ray Deutsch <ray.deut...@yahoo.ca<mailto:ray.deut...@yahoo.ca>>
To: "Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society; postings copyright by 
authors." <alpine-l@science.uu.nl<mailto:alpine-l@science.uu.nl>>
Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2015, 0:18
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener 
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Why orchids?  They are NOT alpines!  Let the orchid fanciers worship elsewhere.




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From: Youngs Aberdeen 
<youngs.aberd...@btinternet.com<mailto:youngs.aberd...@btinternet.com>>
To: Alpine-L . <alpine-l@science.uu.nl<mailto:alpine-l@science.uu.nl>>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 6:47 AM
Subject: [Alpine-l] The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener 
e-magazine

The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener (IRG)  # 67 is online now.
It has the second part of the Eijkelenboom report on the orchids of Crete,
Zdenek Zvolanek  demonstrates the  landscaping of a trough in Moravia,
and Steve Garvie and Ian Young  show how Dactylorhiza can colonise  troughs and 
gardens in Scotland
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Jul301438283975IRG-67.pdf
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=international    is the main page for 
all issues

The  latest full  Index to IRG is here  
http://files.srgc.net/journals/IRGIndex67.pdf

Another  feature on the SRGC website is Ian Young's weekly Bulb Log Diary
 - all issues from 2003 to the present may be accessed from this page :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=bulb
All are welcome to enjoy these and other features of the website 
www.srgc.net<http://www.srgc.net/>
Best wishes, M. Young

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