If you read posts from the alsa-devel list, you would see lots of advice on
how to get it to work, apart from just RTFM.
The most important part is the correct feedback from yourself.
I am only saying this as an impartial observer. I have found that the
developers on this list give very good support if one gives them the
information they ask for. I myself had a big problem with SPDIF pass thru on
a SB Live, which we finally managed to fix, although it took a long time,
due to the issue that I could see the problem, but the developers SB Live
worked fine.
There are many different versions of sound cards.
They might all be called "SB Live"  or "C-Media 8738", but the actual
hardware can be quite different.
So when one of the developers(Takashi Iwai) asked for specific information
from the users on 24-1-2002, why didn't you respond.

Cheers
James


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Thomas
> Tonino
> Sent: 27 January 2002 10:29
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Alsa-devel] Re: [Alsa-user] C-Media 8738 SPDIF problem
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >ok, obviously there have been enough problems regarding $SUBJECT.
> >I don't think that all bug reports on ML are really one, though.
> >So, please check the following if you have encountered this problem.
> >
> >****
> >
> >1. For playing through SPDIF, you need to use the 3rd device,
> >namely,
> >     % aplay -Dhw:0,2 foo.wav
> >
>
> aplay -Dhw:0,2 test.wav
> Playing WAVE 'test.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100
> Hz, Stereo
> aplay: pcm_write:935: write error: Input/output error
>
> A strace:
> ioctl(4, 0x400c4150, 0xbffff6c0)        = 0
> read(3, "\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"...,
> 16384) = 16
> 384
> ioctl(4, 0x400c4150, 0xbffff6c0)        = 0
> read(3, "\305\1\212\1\364\2^\2\23\4+\0038\5\366\3U\6\264\4\\\7e"...,
> 16384) = 16
> 384
> ioctl(4, 0x400c4150, 0xbffff6c0)        = ? ERESTARTSYS (To be restarted)
> --- SIGWINCH (Window changed) ---
> ioctl(4, 0x400c4150, 0xbffff6c0)        = ? ERESTARTSYS (To be restarted)
> --- and so on ---
> ioctl(4, 0x400c4150, 0xbffff6c0)        = ? ERESTARTSYS (To be restarted)
> --- SIGWINCH (Window changed) ---
> ioctl(4, 0x400c4150, 0xbffff6c0)        = -1 EIO (Input/output error)
> write(2, "aplay: pcm_write:935: ", 22aplay: pcm_write:935: )  = 22
> write(2, "write error: Input/output error", 31write error: Input/output
> error) = 31
> write(2, "\n", 1
> )                       = 1
> _exit(1)                                = ?
>
> >
> >2. There are many different models with the same CM8738 chip.
> >
> Mine is model 55.
>
> I'm giving up on Alsa for the time being. I like the project really much
> - even ran a public mirror a long time ago - but I think it currently
> lacks quality. The architecture may be great, but if things don't work,
> there is not much in it for users.
>
> I realize the 0.9 version is a beta. I also realize I have a working oss
> style driver available. And I would really prefer Alsa on my system. But
> I think it has to be in kernel 2.5 before it will really work -
> hopefully more user oriented bug reports will come in.
>
> I'm not a C hacker, but I have given some code and algorithms
> incorporated into other projects. The style of development here doesn't
> help me be productive, however. People here have great ideas and insight
> in architectural matters, but are not good at getting others up to speed
> fixing things.
>
> For example, I would have liked trying some register settings on my
> system to figure out what works and what doesn't. Instead what happened:
>
> First,  I report a problem
> Then, the answer: it is not broken, read the docs
>
> After that, I start mangling the source, find out about the
> signed/unsigned workaround (which can be done through aplay as well it
> seems... but maybe the docs should be more accessible?) In any case
> other testers are more clever than me. Only when other bug reports come
> in, things are picked up and people realize there _might_ be a problem.
>
> Things still do not work. The option for spdif output that is most
> logical for me, I'm told not to use: DAC to SPDIF. Why not? Is it
> broken? Untested? Anyway the other option doesn't work here either.
>
> I would have been more than willing to write documentation for end
> users. But I'm fed up with getting no information, not even pointers to
> them (except "read CMIPCI.txt").
>
> And because of the feeling that I've not made any progress, I wish you
> all good luck with the project. And I hope it does not become the
> critical path in releasing the 2.6 kernel. But then again, being in 2.5
> may mean there is a manager to give priority to bug fixing.
>
> No hard feeling, but a little sad. Especially as the problem I'm
> reporting - very loud distorted sound - should always be a bug.
> Especially for a project that prides itself for keeping mixer volume
> levels at zero by default.
>
>
> Good luck,
>
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
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