On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:Quoted response from Creative today: -
http://www.alsa-project.org/black.html
How can this list be NONE!
We need to add Creative for their SB Live Dell edition (emu10k1x) and the SB Audigy LS.
Well, have we a response from Creative that they're not willing to give us programming information?
Jaroslav
"Unfortunately, I can't give you this information. I'm lobbying to get it released."
Some time ago, Creative were very supportive of linux and the open source community, but in the last year or 2 that has changed considerably.
So I vote to black list Creative.
I think it would also be good to add status to all sound card manufacturers with several levels: -
1) Very co-operative, supply datasheets and points of contact. (We should add url links to copies of the datasheets, and store copies of all datasheets on the alsa web site.)
2) Supply datasheets with enough infomation to write drivers.
3) Minimal help has been provided and limited functionallity has been implemented in the driver.
4) Do not help, but people have managed to reverse engineer enough and have built drivers.
5) Do not help, and no reverse engineering work has been done.
Maybe on a per sound card level. I think we should also list PCI IDs together with the sound card names, for the sake of accuracy.
Adding direct url links to datasheets stored on the alsa site would help potential developers a lot. For example, when I did some work on the AC97 chips, it took a long time for me to track the datasheets down.
We can then sing the praises of all the helpful companies and aid in their marketing effort. So helpful companies get more sales.
We can also then do the opposite with unhelpful companies.
We could then have three lists: - 1) Black list for unhelpful companies. 2) Grey list for partially helpful companies 3) White list for very helpful companies.
So, for example I see a sound card on a web site. e.g.Gainward [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7.1 soundcard/PCI 24bit VIA Envy24 chipset
Is that a black, grey or white sound card?
Cheers James
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