On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:57:58 -0800 (PST)
Maren Peasley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I got this feedback from Philips. Unless I get a response soon, I will
> call them with the best information I have "I need the *complete* data
> sheet on the SAA7785 chip for the Philips Acoustic Edge 5.1 sound card."
>
> If anyone else in the area wants to pitch in, feel free...
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:59:45 -0600
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Philips SC feedback (Acoustic Edge Complete Data Sheet)
>
>
> Maren,
>
> Thank you for your inquiry. Your Philips Rep can provide sales, samples,
> data sheets, and technical support. Your Philips Rep is Cascade Technical
> Sales in Beaverton, OR. You can reach them at 503-645-9660. They should
> be able to assist you.
>
> Sincerely,
> Leo
> Philips Semiconductors
> Presales and Literature
>
> P.S. This is the message I sent to them:
>
> I am trying to find the complete data sheet of the Acoustic Edge chip
> "Thunderbird" (SAA7785). I found a partial data sheet on your website, but
> I need more information. I am doing this to contribute to the ALSA
> project, which provides drivers for soundcards for machines running Linux.
I compliment you for trying! I hope this recent 'real world' example (also
available from the archive of the Mandrake newbie list) helps a little :)
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From: Frans Ketelaars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Sound card install problem
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 18:13:53 +0100
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On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 09:23:01 -0500
Jeff Quandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Accidentally didn't send to the list. Sorry
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>
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound card install problem
> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 09:14:39 -0500
> From: Jeff Quandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> On Friday 01 March 2002 04:16 am, you wrote:
> > Hi, Jeff
> >
> > The "KDE Control Center -> Information -> Sound" may not always be
> > correct. I have working SB 16 and SB live installed, they show up as no
> > info available too.
> >
> > Try to get out of X and login as root in a text console, run sndconfig
> > and see what happens.
> >
> > HTH
>
> Okay, I did that. Here is the output I get.
>
> The VLSI|unknown device 1004:0307 â__
> â__ is not supported.
It's not supported because Philips refuses to release the information necesary
to write a driver :((((
> As I said this is a Philips Acoustic Edge, PC706 I believe. I was able to
> install it with a generic SB compatible driver under Icepack 1.1. I had many
> problems with Icepack however, so I switched to Mandrake.
>
> If I decided to get a new card that was Linux compatible, do I use sndconfig
> to install the driver or what?
I think the 'standard' way is to make sure 'hardrake' and 'kudzu' are set to
run on boot, when booting after installing the card it should be automagically
set up. You can also run HardDrake later of course. AFAIK the use of sndconfig
is advised when HardDrake (from the Mandrake Control Centre) fails.
> Thanks,
> Jeff
-Frans
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And 8 days later he decides to get another, _Linux supported_ card..... :
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From: Frans Ketelaars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [newbie] SB Audigy question
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:50:30 +0100
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On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:57:42 -0600
Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone got it, Gamer, MP3, or Plat versions? How does it work in Linux?
I know Gina from this list has gotten an Audigy to work (you can get her
email address from the archives, maybe she is no longer subscribed).
> LM 8.1 specifically.
Don't expect out of the box support! But if there is a driver for Linux it
should work independent of the distribution. And there are drivers:
see http://opensource.creative.com/ , they have a mailing list, if you're
lucky they have a searchable archive :) ALSA also has support for the Audigy.
> I mean both hardware and software. Do the fancy extras
> packed in really work? ( the Mp3 players, etc) How about the connector box?
> How about the SB 1394? (I believe that's the part that does the 24bit
> encoding and other "extra features" of the audigy)
I don't think Creative ships Linux software at this moment :) About hardware:
don't expect everything to work, I suggest trying the Creative mailing list
and search the archive and/or ask questions there about supported features.
As Femme said: IEEE1394 is Firewire.
Creative has someone (Garin) working on their Open Source driver. AFAIK
a lot about the to be supported features depends on managment descisions
about what information about their hardware can be disclosed, either directly
or via the driver sourcecode. And managment will consider the possibility
that people choose different sound hardware because of better Linux support,
so letting your voice heard might help getting (even) more Creative
cooperation with the Open Source community :)
> Please let me know, as I am going to ditch my acoustic edge
Uhm, stay nice, but let Philips know you're dissapointed....
> and I want to
> make sure my preffered upgrade will work.
_At least_ basic recording and playback should work. Btw, ALSA supports
various (semi)professional cards that at the moment are better supported
under Linux then the Audigy. I don't think there is any reason to choose
the Audigy for technical or price/performance reasons.
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
You're wellcome :)
-Frans
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Good luck!
-Frans
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