On Tuesday 20 January 2004 00:44, Mark Knecht wrote:

>Matt,
>   My 2 cents...I don't think it's quite that simple, or at least it
>doesn't seem that simple to me. This whole thread has been about
>comparing apples and oranges. In my opinion Alsa as a project has
> both made huge advances, and has a huge structural problem that may
> never be fixed.
>
>1) Alsa really does work, or does work for some. It has small
> problems, but with the right sound card it probably works really
> well. (Right being defined as the same sound card one of the
> primary developers has)
>
>2) For an apparently large and vocal group Alsa doesn't work very
> well at all. In many cases I think this comes down to the Alsa
> developers letting sound card drivers join the supported cards
> group even though the drivers are not well tested and in many cases
> don't work at all. Worse, there is no continuing support for
> specific cards. Driver developers move off to do new things and
> drivers fall into a state of disrepair. Reported bugs never get
> talked about, much less fixed. For this group of people Alsa is
> really a big mess.

Agreed, that which works, does so almost by accident. Mine sorta 
works, I can play music, listen to tv, (but at a very low volume 
level) and once in a blue moon timidity will work.

>   It's really hard reading these lists to know what the relative
> size of the two groups are. I'm sure there are lots of happy people
> out there that don't report that everything is working great. Happy
> people seldom squeak. On the other hand, the unhappy often squeak,
> but it's hard to know the size of that group also.

Consider me a squeaker.

>   So, just because Alsa is in the newest kernels doesn't mean it's
>really a solution ready for the masses. More, I think, that it's the
>best thing going in Linux audio.

It may be, but the rest of the system has got to get out of the oss 
mentality, almosy nothing works if I turn off the oss emulation.

>Cheers,
>Mark

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Cheers, Gene
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