Dominique Michel wrote: > Le Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:46:21 +0100, > Dragan Noveski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > >> hi to the list! >> >> i am running an originally demudi box, which with the time became a >> custom-debian testing one. >> in last summer i removed everything from my machine what was depending >> an a dabian-jackd package and reinstalled from sources (lot of audio >> stuff, kde etc...). this action tooks me about a month, >> > > Wouhaou! A month! Why do you don't try gentoo? It is a very good pro-audio > overlay with a lot of never versions. Some programs have both released > versions > and cvs or svn versions. > > http://proaudio.tuxfamily.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page > ok, look i am workong here mostly with ardour, but since a was a bleeding-noob i decided to install and test here everything what is jacked! just for experiencing/practicing! that is why i have here about 60 appis which all works with jackd, but i really need perhaps 20 of them. so, i really appreciate your suggestions, but i would not like to change the distri now, as i just managed to admin my debian (which really works great!). compiling alsa from scratch might be an advantage for me?! but i heard about gentoo, running very good and beeing somethings for geeks - so who knows, if i ever want to change my distry, i could imagine that i would try gentoo! > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml can maybe help you. For the card, > it is enough if you chose only the drivers for yours cards. > that is an nice link, i had a look and it gave me some more knowledge, thanks! >> i would like to choose only this 3 cards, but what is about options like >> "dummy", "virmidi"?? >> > > dummy is normally not needed. virmidi can be useful if you want to work with > MIDI but is normally not needed. > so, i would configure like this:
./configure --with-isapnp=no --with-sequencer=yes --with-oss=yes --with-pcm-oss-plugins=yes --with-cards=virmidi,seq-dummy,mpu401,mtpav,serial-u16550,hda-intel,hdsp,intel8x0,intel8x0m,via82xx,usb-audio --with-card-options=all > >> all the 3 cards runs well now, should i expect some breakage with the >> firmware-loaders 1.0.13? >> is somebody here running a multiface on the newest alsa libs / firmware?? >> >> what should i do with the option `--with-pcmcia-root`?? >> do you know about the options: --with-pcmcia=kernel,external --with-pcmcia-root=dir, i think, that i just don´t need them! i already have been running ./configure like i wrote above, and it don´t gives me any errors! >> 3: my system is now configured so that alsa is started on boot, will >> this change after an reinstall? >> >> > No > thanks, at least one good news! >> 4: what happens to the other appis (let´s say mplayer, but there are >> about 70 self compiled jack-capable appis here!), which are compiled >> with the alsapackages i have now? do i have to recompile everything what >> is linked to libalsa, or will simply running `ldconfig` make a trick? >> >> > It is hard to respond. All is possible. It can work just fine, break things, > or > cause very subtle bugs. On gentoo where all is compiled from the sources, it > is > revdep-rebuild that take care of such problems. > > >> 5: will jackd recognize the new alsa stuff (since it will be installed >> in the same location, as the old stuff is installed in, which is default >> as i understood!). >> >> >> 6: i think that once the drivers are well compiled, compiling the libs >> is not that difficult. is that true, can i use simply the default stuff >> with only `./configure`? >> >> 7: i am using self-made kernels here, with the i.molnar patches and that >> runs very good now! >> i don´t think that i have to recompile the kernel, but it could be >> possible that i must compile alsa with at least the drivers which are >> compiled in the kernel? >> >> > You cannot have both the in-kernel alsa drivers and the drivers from > alsa-driver at the same time. You must chose one, install and use it. > sorry for the noob-terminology, the kernel is compile dwith the alsa modules for onboard, rme and usb-audio. > >> so, that are enough (i know, a lot!) of questions now, i hope that i get >> some good answers, so i can make more questions!! >> i read alreade the README´s and the stuff on the alsa-site, but i am >> still not sure haw to do this reinstallation - but i am sure that i >> would like to have an alsa-system which is not depending on the dpkg! >> if you need more information on my system in order to being able to help >> me, please let me know that! >> >> cheers, >> doc >> >> > > But to be clear, as many debian packages include specific debian patches or > improvements , I thing at it will be simpler to do one of the following: > 1) As testing and unstable are compatible, add a debian unstable depository in > sources.list > 2) If the programs in unstable are not enough up to date, just use gentoo. > > One of the main gentoo advantages is at you can mix the branches as you want. > You can have a stable base system and work system, and in the work system, you > can install the last committed releases by editing just one file and adding a > keyword for that packages. It is possible because, as it is compiled from > the sources by portage, it will depend only of the installed programs/library. > > And if the installed libraries don't meet the requirements of the program you > want to install, portage will tell you what to do. > > I used suse under many years. I used Demudi and I use now 64 Studio, but > nothing can be compared with the way that portage use to deal with > dependencies. The first install was hard. I even trashed it completely after > a few months of use. But it have so many advantages as it is my every day > distribution. > > At the beginning of the first install, just use a stable system (arch, not > ~arch) and safe CFLAGS as explained in the handbook and you will get an > incredibly fast and stable system. Use ~arch as explained in the handbook > only for specific program where you want the last release. > > And don't trust peoples on the forum telling you to use Cflags as > "break_my_gentoo" (all the cflags not in the handbook), such cflags need > profiling for each single program and no one have the time to do that for > every > single program in the box. (When needed, such flags are in the ebuild or in > the > source code, so don't mess it with break_m_gentoo system flags.) > > After the first install, read at least the first chapter of the second part of > the handbook, the part about using portage. > > If you read this to the end, a very comfortable way to install gentoo if you > have at least one free partition is to boot in your existing system and do a > chrooted install as explained in > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml#doc_chap6 > ok, ll have a look into it! > Good luck, > Dominique > cheers, doc ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. 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