That's an interesting take on it, Ryan. You almost have to builld two layers of mvc - one on the client which is traditional ui style mvc, and one on the server side which is web style mvc.
Mike, in old school mvc the view has no real logic in it and doing validations at that layer would be considered very bad form. In fact, the view never does anything on its own. It tells the controller what the user did, and if there is a resulting update to be made in the view, the controller will tell the view to do it. In the web world this would result in lots of round trips. On Jan 22, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Ryan Riley <[email protected]> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul McCallick >> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 2:27 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: The reality of web mvc >> >> I've been thinking about how most web apps these days do some serious >> JavaScript backflips, and how that sort of violates the mvc pattern. >> With all of that magic happening at the view layer, you're sort of >> forced to make some processing decisions that never hit the contr >> >> Thoughts, strategies?l > > The problem stems from the fact that MVC is a UI pattern, and web apps are > services delivering messages, not UI. A true MVC platform would be all > JavaScript. MVC just so happens to very closely match the resource-oriented > nature of the web so that it makes it difficult to catch the slight > mismatch. > > So what you really need to do is segregate your service (web app) from your > UI (JavaScript). Then you'll see the clean divisions and be able to do some > MVC with JavaScript. Check out Sammy.js, among others. > > Ryan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en.
