On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:57 PM, stefano previdi <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Apr 29, 2011, at 3:12 AM, 朱潇 wrote:
>
>> hi Sebastian :
>>        * firstly, i agree that the creation of the map, which is tightly
>> related to the algorithm, is within the protocol.
>>
>
>
> the protocol specifies the semantic of the map content. How you
> came to that (from whatever source) is out of protocol spec.
>
>
>         * secondly, i am not sure the information contained in current map
>> structure is complete or not, because the current protocol describe that :
>>
>>        * the cost map just includes cost type and cost mode
>>
>
>
> I believe the cost mode will reflect the topology layer you leveraged
> in order to build your maps/ecs.
>
> was that specified in the ALTO protocol? or do we have to specified what
exact factor should be included?

>
>         * the network map just includes PID and endpoint address
>>
>> does the information include the cell id or ap id?
>>
>
>
> it will be reflected in your pid's.
>
> in my understanding, the PID is a kind of self-defined naming system in
ALTO, does they have the same syntax or semantics of the cell id or ap id
defined in GSM or other networks?

> s.
>
>
>
>
>  On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Sebastian Kiesel <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 09:27:51AM +0800, ?????? wrote:
>> > > I agree. But the creation of maps based on the (wireless) topology and
>> > > other {cost,distance,performance,...}-related information as well as
>> > > feeding them into the ALTO server is out of scope of the protocol
>> spec.
>> > >
>> > why does the creation of this map is out of the scope of the protocol
>> spec?
>>
>> Which information to put into the map depends on the network technology,
>> topology, optimization goals, policies (e.g. how much information about
>> the network is an ISP willing to disclose), how much effort you want to
>> spend, etc. So it would be difficult to write down an one-size-fits-all
>> algorithm. Furhermore, the algorithms used for creating the maps may be
>> a field where different ALTO server vendors may come up with different
>> solutions, i.e., market competition.
>>
>> For interoperability between ALTO clients and servers of different
>> vendors it is important that the syntax of the map and the request/reply
>> protocol is clearly specified. This is within the scope of the document.
>>
>> > the ALTO server should provider the information to client to make sure
>> that
>> > P2P application make the appropriated selection for the wireless peer.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> In your wireless scenario, is there any kind of guiding information
>> you would like to transport from the ALTO server to the ALTO client,
>> which cannot be expressed with the syntax in the current protocol
>> specification?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> S.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Beijing University of Posts & Telecommunications (BUPT)
>> Zhu Xiao  ( 朱潇 )
>> E-mail: [email protected]
>> mobile:+86 134-8881-9004
>>
>
>


-- 
Best wishes,

Beijing University of Posts & Telecommunications (BUPT)
Zhu Xiao  ( 朱潇 )
E-mail: [email protected]
mobile:+86 134-8881-9004
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