Hi Sabine,

Thanks a lot for the nice comments. Please see below.


On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM, RANDRIAMASY, SABINE (SABINE) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Sebastian, Richard and all,
>
> I definitely agree with the text before 1.1. referring to the pb statement
> and requirements RFCs.
> I also agree on the "link bandwidth mine field" issue. However, an ALTO
> Server does not need to unveil the true values to provide guidance w.r.t.
> such values. Therefore how about adding at the end of section 1.2.1
> "Service providers" some text like:
>
> "Without unveiling sensitive and confidential information on the provider
> network state, an ALTO Server can provide applications with its preferences
> w.r.t. metrics such as e.g. monetary costs, bandwidth and delay; the
> preference for instance may abstract real metric values in a non real time
> numerical score or cost or an ordinal rank."
>
> The clarification makes sense. We will add the idea.


> As for the discussion during the interim meeting on whether to keep a 1.5
> pages Introduction section or shorten it drastically and redirect the
> reader to the Pb statement RFC: although this will be a IESG decision, I'd
> like to back Rich Alimi who prefers documents that are somewhat
> self-contained and pointed that many people are reluctant to fetch and read
> tens of document pages just to have a glimpse. The ALTO protocol is widely
> promoted in the technical literature, usually with some 5-10 presentation
> lines and a reference to the "ALTO Protocol" document. The latter is very
> well written and having a 1.5 pages clear introduction makes it
> self-contained.
>

The newer version tries to maintain the self-contained flavor. There is one
round of revision already and we will post a new revision by Monday to get
more feedback.

Thanks again!

Richard


>
> Thanks,
> Sabine
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de
> Sebastian Kiesel
> Envoyé : jeudi 20 juin 2013 08:46
> À : Y. Richard Yang
> Cc : IETF ALTO
> Objet : Re: [alto] draft-ietf-alto-protocol-16: introduction section
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 09:49:47PM -0400, Y. Richard Yang wrote:
> > > One more comment about section 1.2.2, which says:
> > >
> > >     For example, a peer-to-peer overlay application can use information
> > >     provided by an ALTO Service to avoid selecting peers connected with
> > >     low bandwidth links.
> > >
> > >
> > > ALTO and link bandwidth is a mine field - not impossible at all, but
> > > difficult, see the long discussions we had, partly summarized in sec.
> > > 8.2.3 of draft-ietf-alto-deployments-06.  Therefore I think it would
> > > be wise to use a less controversial example here, say:
> > >
> > >
> > >     For example, a peer-to-peer overlay application can use information
> > >     provided by an ALTO Service to avoid selecting peers connected via
> > >     intercontinental (i.e., high-delay) links.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I like the revision. I may suggest some change to the wording, since
> > some two points in two continents may be closer to some two
> > intra-continent
> > points:
> >
> > For example, a peer-to-peer overlay application can use information
> > provided by an ALTO Service to avoid selecting peers connected via
> > high-delay links (e.g., some intercontinental links).
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> Even better!
>
> Thanks
> Sebastian
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