Support all 7.
Greg
On 1/23/2014 11:11 AM, Vijay K. Gurbani wrote:
> Folks: Over the last few IETFs, Enrico and I have solicited feedback
> during face-to-face meetings, WG sessions, hallway conversations, ALTO
> mailing list and private conversations on how to move ahead with respect
> to adopting new work items.
>
> As we begin the charter discussions, we have identified seven
> work items to propose as additions to the charter.  The first four of
> these work items are fairly uncontroversial.  The last three are work
> items that have a monumental mind share in the ALTO working group and
> have been found to be extremely useful in controlled networks (e.g.,
> VPNs).  However, we have to take some care in defining these such that
> we do not duplicate the functionality available elsewhere (e.g., general
> routing) in ALTO, nor do we take on an aspect that the working group
> does not fully understand.
>
> Here are the seven items up for discussion:
>
> 1. Anycast-based server discovery
>    (Presented by Reinaldo Penno in IETF 86 and appears to have
>    some support for adoption.)
>
> 2. Third-party server discovery
>    (Sebastian Kiesel et al. have been driving this work and it
>    also appears to have support.)
>
> 3. Incremental ALTO map updates
>    (Side meeting held during IETF 86; two proposals have been
>    studied.  One way forward is to use an ALTO-specific incremental
>    update that may be more efficient, and the second approach is to
>    simply use JSON patch.)
>
> 4. Server-initiated update notifications
>    (Jan Seedorf and Enrico Marocco have suggested the use of
>    Websockets; HTTP/2.0 may provide some mitigation as well.)
>
> 5. Extensions to annotate PIDs with properties (e.g., geographical
>    locations).
>    (Useful as an extension in controlled environments, e.g., VPNs
>    where IP addresses are not the only form of identification.
>    Some drafts, including draft-roome-alto-pid-properties
>    has already started work in this direction.)
>
> 6. Extensions for cost metrics.
>    (Some drafts, including draft-wu-alto-json-te, have started work
>    in this direction.)
>
> 7. An ALTO format for encoding graphs.
>    (draft-ietf-alto-protocol already recognizes the need to provide
>    topology details that are useful in controlled environments.
>    Richard Yang, Greg Bernstein and others have been working on the
>    need and use cases for such an encoding.  draft-yang-alto-topology
>    is a good start.  Projects like OpenDayLight and NetworkX (Python)
>    have JSON models for graph representation.  Some concrete examples
>    of how we envision encoding graphs will be useful during list
>    discussion.)
>
> We will like to understand whether the working group believe such
> additional deliverables, if included in an updated charter proposal,
> would allow people to do the extension work that has been repeatedly
> proposed. (Clarification: we are explicitly asking whether people could
> find such an update acceptable. We understand that anyone will have a
> preferred flavor of the above.)
>
> We are at a point where show of support by whoever is interested is
> essential for moving forward. If it turns out to be positive, Enrico
> and I will subsequently circulate actual text, including milestones, for
> a rechartering request.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - vijay


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