Dear all,

As IETF'93 is coming soon, it is good time to get some discussion started
first so that we may continue at Prague.

One issue is the relationship between ALTO and SDN. I want to start this
thread not only because SDN is a hot topic or ALTO/SDN are two of my main
interests recently. More importantly, I feel that a better understanding of
ALTO and SDN can help with the future direction of ALTO. This email is not
intended to be complete, but more is to get the conversation started.

A good point of the discussion is our experiences in implementing ALTO in
OpenDaylight (ODL). A small background digression. A basic version of ALTO
has been implemented in the ODL Lithium release. We plan to participate in
the next ODL release as well, to add substantial new features, such as
incremental updates (Wendy's SSE design), routing state abstraction using
declarative equivalence, and automatic map generations. We are also
starting the integration of ALTO to ONOS soon. In you are interested in
joining such design and development, please let us know.

Now, what are some key lessons/issues that we have learned in this
ALTO/SDN?

First, a key benefit to ALTO is that it can construct its views from its
access to a centralized state of the network provided by SDN. As a basic
case, in the current ALTO/ODL implementation, the ALTO server uses
l2switch, which is a project in ODL that collects all active endhosts in
the network, to construct a dynamic network with two PIDs: internal (for
those in the network) and external (for those not). A default cost map is
constructed so that  internal <-> external has higher routing costs. As
endhosts being collected or pruned from the network state, the ALTO server
is notified by ODL's event system automatically, and ALTO's event handler
updates the network map automatically. It will be great exercise to push
this direction more, for example, by constructing more interesting,
network-state maps and endpoint cost services (ECS).

If we say the basic case is what SDN can do for ALTO, the next is what ALTO
can do for SDN. In particular, we have extended the path vector proposal
substantially to design the new ALTO service called routing state
abstraction using declarative equivalence (RSADE); see see
http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/yry/research/TechReports/GWY15.pdf
We feel that the RSADE service will be a very valuable abstraction service
for SDN.

Now, some issues and questions that have become more obvious in the process:

- ALTO maps are endhosts based, but SDN allows more fine-grained routing,
e.g., routing depending on ports. How do we handle this?

- From the beginning, ALTO's charter limits it to be a
network-state-read-only protocol. SDN allows one to "write" a network's
state. Suppose we have a general SDN/ALTO environment, for applications
such as large-data transfer (e.g., the multi-flow use case, big data), how
can such applications use both the ALTO channel and the SDN write channel?

Let me keep this email short and stop here, so that we may have some good
discussions, on the mailing list and/or at the Prague meeting.

Cheers,

Richard
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