Hi all,

There are some considerations about draft-ietf-alto-incr-update-sse.

According to this thread [1], there is an unclear description in the input
parameters of update steam service (Section 6.3). I also suggest the first
fixing option from Wendy, which is to make “start-updates” and
“stop-updates” exclusive. Since “stream-id” is only used by “stop-updates”,
why not make it a filed in the value of “stop-updates”?

And another consideration is about Stream Restart (Section 9.2). Can we
support to compute a merge patch between two special tags (for those
resource with tags, such as networkmap).

Also looking forward to a more detailed review for this draft.

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/alto/peGfjZ4_s1GXsKx5hlEhQX_CIK0

Regards,
Jensen

2016-02-23 15:51 GMT+08:00 Gao Kai <[email protected]>:

> Hi all,
>
> Below are my feedbacks on the multi-cost draft:
>
> Review on draft-ietf-alto-multi-cost-01:
>
> Notation:
> sec#X: Section X
> para#X: paragraph X
> line#X: line X
> =====
>
> sec#1-para#1-line#3:
> Typo: "such" -> "such as"
>
> sec#1-para#7-line4:
> Typo: "definition" -> "definitions"
>
> sec#3.6:
>
> Instead of reusing the "constraints" field for "testable-cost-types", I'd
> like
> to propose that we enforce the use of "or-constraints".
>
> Firstly, the format of "testable-cost-types" is a list of cost types, but
> the
> "constraints" field is originally designed for testing one cost type.  Even
> using the extended format, the conditions can only be concatenated by the
> AND
> operator.  Using "or-constraints", on the other hand, provides better
> flexibility.
>
> Secondly, according to the draft, if the "testable-cost-types" is missing,
> the
> servers will test the "multi-cost-types" with the conditions specified by
> "or-constraints".  Thus using "or-constraints" for both cases can simplify
> the
> implementation because the "constraints" field can be totally ignored in
> this
> case.
>
> Finally, from the example in section 5.4, I feel the extended usage of
> "constraints" seems to be only designed for the special case that the
> number of
> elements in "testable-cost-types" is 1, which I think the benefits are not
> worth the complexity it brings to both clients and servers.
>
> sec4.1.1-para#1:
>
> The type of "or-constraints" should be:
>
>     [JSONArray or-constraints<0..*>;]
>
> sec4.1.1:
>
> In the description for "testable-cost-types", the first paragraph says it
> is
> described for the "constraints" parameter, which should be for the
> "or-constraints" parameter or, if we decide to reuse the "constraints"
> field,
> for both parameters.
>
> sec4.1.2:
>
> The description for "testable-cost-type-names" capability indicates it
> requires
> the "cost-constraints" capability to be "true".  However, in that case,
> according to RFC 7285, all cost types should be able to be included in
> constraints, which means they are "testable".  I cannot think of a good
> reason
> of doing that so my proposal is that we do the opposite:
>
> When the "cost-constraints" is set to "true", all types are testable and
> the
> "testable-cost-type-names" SHOULD NOT appear and MUST be omitted if it
> does.
> Otherwise, only the types specified in the "testable-cost-type-names" are
> considered testable.
>
>
> You thoughts and opinions are highly appreciated!
>
> Regards,
> Kai
>
>
> On 23/02/16 09:48, Gao Kai wrote:
>
> Hello Vijay and all,
>
> I can go through the WG drafts 2 and 3 (the SSE and Multi-cost) and give
> some feedbacks as soon as possible.
>
> Regards,
> Kai
>
> On 26/01/16 23:29, Vijay K. Gurbani wrote:
>
> Folks: The mailing list has been awfully quiet.
>
> Presently, we have 3 active I-Ds that are being tracked towards charter
> fulfillment:
>
> 1. draft-ietf-alto-deployments is in its second WGLC.  The new WGLC ends
>  on February 3, 2016.
>
> 2. draft-ietf-alto-incr-update-sse appears to be moving along and there
>  do not seem to be any stop gap issues that we are aware of.  Authors,
>  please inform the WG if there are.
>
> 3. draft-ietf-alto-multi-cost is also fairly mature.
>
> It seems reasonable to move 2 and 3 ahead.
>
> Then there are a number of independent submissions dating back to Sep-
> Oct 2015 timeframe.  These have not been updated and nor has there been
> much discussion on the mailing list.  Some of these submissions are
> important for charter deliverables related to graph representation
> formats.  Can the authors of the independent submissions kindly
> share what their plans are with respect to the drafts?
>
> This will help us gauge whether or not we should meet face-to-face in
> Buenos Aires or have an interim meeting before it and meet face-to-face
> in Berlin.
>
> Note that while the final plans are still up in the air and subject
> to change, there is a good chance that neither Jan or I will be able to
> make it to Buenos Aires.  However, if a F2F meeting is desired, it is
> important to get a sense of the energy behind the independent drafts,
> as the list traffic has been woefully quiet on this front.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - vijay
>
>
>
>
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