Greg, all,

I read the paper and found it highly relevant, for the convergence of our
network graph/path vector design. Here, let us start with the initial
design, before getting into the details of json encoding. Any feedback will
be greatly appreciated.

- Path-vector request:
  src/dest pairs; and optionally, for each pair, additional hint
information such as demand, requirement metrics
  Requested properties of network elements

- Path-vector response:
  Path vector for each src/dst pair, where each element in a path vector is
an abstract network element
  A description of the properties of each network element.

Example:
  Req:
    src/dst pairs: {s1 -> d1, demand = 10, latency < 20 ms}, {s2 -> d2, ...}
    properties: available-bw, cost

  Response:
    s1 -> d1: "e1", "e2", ...
    ...
    "e1" properties: available-bw = 10, cost = 3,

...

The preceding does not handle the case of query topology, but I feel that
path vector, which essentially assumes that routing is given and no need to
worry about path compressions, is a good, clean start.

Does the preceding missing anything?

Richard

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Greg Bernstein <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi all since some of our original Internet Drafts association with ALTO
> "topology extensions" our well out of date, those that are interested may
> want to look at a technical paper that Young and I put together back in
> 2012 (
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.grotto-2Dnetworking.com_files_BandwidthConstraintModeling.pdf&d=CwICAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=bzkMATE853C7mq8KpSsYfQ4CVhl2BqBpdPkKwCmbjvw&s=I_FGEj7wmGCRa-fWF84rtryfbW8a3WpXu1nXnSeaSBg&e=
> ). This has motivations, concepts, alternative representations and color
> highlighted figures to aid in comprehension.  We also have the short (11
> slide) presentation that we gave at the Vancouver 2012 IETF for those that
> never saw it or need to job their memory.
>
> Cheers
>
> Greg B.
>
>
> On 7/5/2016 10:27 AM, Vijay K. Gurbani wrote:
>
>> On 07/05/2016 12:25 PM, Y. Richard Yang wrote:
>>
>>> Vijay,
>>>
>>> Please see inline. [...] OK. We should target posting a spec by this
>>> Friday so that we can discuss the spec before the meeting, to remove
>>> any confusion/bewilderment. Since the key piece is encoding
>>> specification of (1) graph; and (2) path vector associated w/ a
>>> graph. We will target posting those spec, precisely first.
>>>
>>
>> Richard: Awesome!  Thanks.
>>
>> - vijay
>>
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