Thanks Adrian for valuable review and input, see my reply inline below.
-----邮件原件-----
发件人: Adrian Farrel [mailto:[email protected]] 
发送时间: 2021年5月1日 19:38
收件人: [email protected]
抄送: [email protected]; 'Martin Duke' <[email protected]>; 
'Zaheduzzaman Sarker' <[email protected]>
主题: Re: WG Review: ALTO Charter Update

Hi Qin, Chairs,

Thanks for this.

> Dear Martin and working group,
>
> Thank you for the useful rechartering discussions on the mailing list 
> and
at IETF-110.
>
> I have listened to the people who say that further protocol work needs 
> to
be based on
> strong deployment needs, and I also hear very many different use cases
proposed. I 
> think we need more discussion and understanding to work out which use
cases are
> high priority and which are more research-based.

Agree. While research-based use of ALTO is important and encouraging, I think 
we need to focus on the primary use cases for IETF work. That is, we need to 
understand the steps that are needed to move ALTO into the next stage of 
implementations and deployments. As you hint, that is probably going to take 
some careful discussion and probably some time.

[Qin]:Exactly, we have discussed this in the ALTO design team meeting. We have 
agreed to use WG wiki page to keep track of implementations and deployments 
update. 

> This makes me think that we need a small short-term recharter to allow 
> us
to work on
> immediate issues (protocol maintenance, operational support) while we
discuss and
> investigate the best uses cases for further work.

That sounds like a very reasonable compromise: it allows the WG to fix small 
issues with the protocol, and (IMHO) operational support is fundamental and in 
need of attention; but it also doesn't make commitments to any specific 
additional protocol work before the discussions have completed.

I only have one comment on the proposed charter text...

> o Future use cases. The working group will provide a forum to discuss
>    possible future use cases. The objective of this discussion will be to
>    determine a small set of use cases that have strong support and a
>    realistic chance of implementation and deployment. The working
>    group will not develop protocol extensions for these use cases until
>    it has been re-chartered specifically for that purpose.

I'm glad this is explicitly in the charter and it supports your initial point 
about needing to discuss this point further. I think it is reasonable to say 
that the WG will not work on protocol extensions until a further re-charter.

But, this bullet item should say something about what the output of this 
charter item is. I think it is: "The working group will report back to the Area 
Director on the results of these discussions which may be documented in an 
email or in an Internet-Draft."

In turn, that would lead to another milestone:

* Report back to the Area Director to identify any use cases that have strong 
support and a realistic chance of implementation and deployment.

[Qin]: Good comment, this issue has been brought up by many ALTO design team 
members as well, one of proposal from ALTO team member is to accommodate this 
in the first deliverable, but the first deliverable only focuses on existing 
implementation deployment,
I think it make sense to add one more new milestones and also it encourages WG 
members to document new use cases and idea in the I-Ds.
Best,
Adrian

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