Hello all,

During the ALTO session, the chair asked that we bring to the mailing list the 
discussion about the new draft "Supporting Bottleneck Structure Graphs in ALTO: 
Use Cases and Requirements"

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-giraltyellamraju-alto-bsg-requirements/

I will start by following up on the questions raised during the session via the 
Jabber chat, but feel free to raise any other questions during this 
conversation:
[QW]
Can alto provide sufficient information to build bottleneck structure graph? is 
there data translation needed? in the scope of your draft or not?

[RY]
There are two interpretations to this question: (1) build bottleneck structure 
on top of alto and (2) make bottleneck structure a (new) service provided by 
alto. For (1), we need some modifications; I think the focus here is (2). Jordi?
[JRG] Right, I think the focus is (2). To construct the bottleneck structure, 
we need information about the set of links traversed by the flows and the link 
capacity. Flow information can be obtained from protocols such as NetFlow or 
sFlow (this approach is similar to how other deployments discussed in ALTO 
collect flow info, such as the Flow 
Director<https://people.csail.mit.edu/gsmaragd/publications/CoNEXT2019/CoNEXT2019.pdf>).
 Link capacity information can be obtained from protocols such as SNMP, the SDN 
controller or topology files. In two deployments in the US we use NetFlow, 
sFlow and topology files. Information could also be pulled from other sources. 
For instance, today we discussed with Luis that if PCE is used, we could get 
path information from the traffic engineering database (TED). Perhaps Luis also 
wants to add to this discussion.

Thanks,
Jordi





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